Wall got onto a groinology site on my way to other things
And found out dad is traced back to the doomsday book in England 1066(Jewish side is thru my mother) and we have a coat of arms. The family motto is TAM ARIS QUAM ARATIS "As well by altars as by ploughs" Well I hate farming so changed it a tad. Potent Arms meaning by force. Gotta change with the times. According to the stuff we ran cattle so Im a cowboy from waaaaay back. Figgers. thanx, bill