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New The danger of private equity firms...
http://www.npr.org/t...storyId=120391729
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-scott
Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
New I see Kosman doesnt understand tax loopholes
If you stop allowing interest to be deducted then it makes it much harder for a business to expand. The only way to end a LBO loophole is to accelerate depreciation and liberating some opcost deductions to offset so a business can expand. So all of these loans coming due and the feds impose a 100 billion dollar tax on these same companies will accelerate the crash, not solve it. If the companies are so insolvent why is Kosman braying about how much money the feds will get?

LBO's have been around since the early 1950's or even earlier if you consider a bustout an LBO. John D McDonald wrote a novel about the practice as described by Kosman around 1964. Kosman hasnt made a new discovery, he is writing about a well known (at least in circles that follow business practices) for a long time.
New I see Box doesn't understand how to read
It was intended so that companies could borrow money to build a plant, to buy new equipment. It wasn't intended so you could borrow money to finance a takeover. If you eliminated interest tax deductibility just for corporate takeovers, which would really only impact the private equity firms, you would do a lot to make LBOs unprofitable.
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Drew
New box reads just fine
so language is inserted that LBO companies borrowing money cant deduct the interest. Honest yer honor it wasnt to leverage a buyout we needed to borrow that money anyway. It would be easily weaseled. All interest must be declared non deductable to ensure that LBO is used as an excuse and the legit needs of the companies would be offset with accelerated depreciation and opcost expansion of deductions.
New Thanks. "A rolling loan gathers no loss."
Interesting discussion. However, it seems that the doom he predicts is being pushed off and hidden by their banks.

http://www.efinancia...ings-on-the-cards

From May:
[...]

In general, the fires have been less widespread than anticipated, according to bankers and advisers. That is largely because many firms successfully renegotiated loan terms with creditors who were keen to avoid full-scale restructurings, according to Kate Ashton, a partner at law firm Debevoise & Plimpton. In the words of private equity grandee Jon Moulton: “A rolling loan gathers no loss.”

Nick Hazell, a partner at law firm Taylor Wessing, said he had been surprised at how supportive banks had been of buyout firms’ restructuring proposals. He said: “There has been more of a willingness to work things out than take the decision to go down a more formal route. That has been the biggest surprise. This time last year people were saying they would see a number of restructurings or insolvency opportunities in the market open up for deal potential, but that is not happening.”

Banks have been keen to support private equity deals in order to preserve their own balance sheets, according to Partha Kar, a partner in the restructuring team at law firm Kirkland & Ellis.

Governments have supported these efforts, said to Ann Cairns, head of the financial industry advisory group in Europe at restructuring firm Alvarez & Marsal. She said: “Governments are putting in programmes which allow the banks some level of stability. They have given then some protection with the government’s asset protection scheme in the UK, for instance. This allows banks more time to hold assets on their balance sheets. It has dampened the whole restructuring market across Europe.”

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The rules are different for those folks... :-/

Cheers,
Scott.
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