Don't believe the hype

Post #323,599 by pwhysall 3/28/10 4:17:20 AM Reply	Don't believe the hype Maybe it's different over there. Toll roads here are a washout. The M6 Toll is substandard and losing money fast. It'll lose a lot more a lot faster when it comes time to renew the surface and upgrade the technology on it. It's also gone up in price; a fiver to drive 26 miles is taking the mickey, quite frankly. Read the numbers carefully. A reduction of 60,000 vehicles in six months sounds like a lot. It's not; it's a diddly 330-ish vehicles a day. In practical terms, it's made piss-all difference to driving in central London. Everyone who was there had to be there anyway; the difference is that now TfL make a lot of money out of running the CC scheme, and the buses are still shit. TfL are very, very good at using extrapolations to "prove" that the CC is doing good. A simple drive across central London would tell you different.
Post #323,606 by Another Scott 3/28/10 8:02:23 AM Reply	Thanks. What seems to be a comparable toll road here is the "Dulles Greenway". It's 22km (14 mi) and the maximum car toll is $4.75 at present. You're getting a bargain. ;-) But until recently there were many tolls on the east coast that were $0.35 or so for fairly long distances - some tiny amount that probably hasn't been raised in 50 years. E.g. $9.05 max for a car to cover the 113 mile length of the Garden State Parkway in New Jersey ($0.08 per mile) - http://www.state.nj....=Start+Calculator In general, we in the US don't pay enough to keep up our transportation infrastructure. (Yes, it would suck to have to pay $20 in tolls every day. But if someone is driving 225 miles a day, they're spending at least that much in gas if they've got an average car - presumably their job makes up for it...) http://dullesgreenwa...information.shtml http://www.macquarie...lles-greenway.htm (I haven't paid much attention to the HOT lanes on the Beltway yet because they're not operational.) Cheers, Scott.
Post #323,608 by scoenye 3/28/10 9:53:08 AM Reply	And the other outcome of the CC The number plate recognition cameras have flown the coop. There are now some 10000 spread through the countryside used for general surveillance, collecting 14M license plates a day. The data is fed to a private organization set up by the cops. http://www.theregist...2/03/police_anpr/

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