Re: Thanks, that covers it.. no es una problema.

Post #318,519 by pwhysall 12/13/09 4:38:34 PM Reply	Re: Thanks, that covers it.. no es una problema. I tend to reboot after 35ish days merely to zero-out Swap memory To what advantage? (swap doesn't automatically get deleted on a reboot in OS X; the swapfiles in /private/var/vm persist over a reboot)
Post #319,017 by Ashton 12/22/09 10:22:43 PM 12/22/09 10:25:58 PM Reply	One in iStat display Meant, merely: that particular swapfile displayed in iStat.. which grows to almost 4 GB, with many pages of Safari left unclosed. Should I know about the ex. you gave, and similar - for intelligent maintenance? (Can't see offhand why I should be intervening in any 'virtual machine' (operations) in normal circumstances.) In similar vein of constructive failure to peruse The MIssing Manual -- I realize that there are beaucoup LOGs, presumably with individual close/store/open-new schedules set to some default. I expect I ought to find out those schedules and, someday delete many of the earlier ones. Or maybe not, if the actual %disk remains trivial by these defaults. I find that I like not having to care! (mostly) yet I also mean to evade a OS reload, say because of very much accumulated cruft that cannot easily be vacuumed out? -- without detailed lore under one's belt. I see a certain conflict in these simultaneous aims. (And I note that the latest build of Safari, with the cutesy 3D display of bookmarked sites - has managed to "..quit unexpectedly" twice. No such events previously, but I do recall words about a few memory leaks in earlier versions. No loss, as the 'restore all pages' in History exists, works just fine. All of this bitchin idiot-proof design is lulling me into a warm sense of Security which ... in most past experience ... eventually seemed to reach that tipping-point we call, false- Just sayin. Ed: oTpy Edited by Ashton Dec. 22, 2009, 10:25:58 PM EST Expand All History
Post #319,027 by folkert 12/23/09 7:34:58 AM Reply	All I have to say is this... UNIX is far more bulletproof and water-resistant and torpedo proof than anything else out there. Its the whole concept of it. Many cannot get over or around it let alone wrap the mind around it. There are multiple reasons, yet many cannot get over the fact that privilege separation just works. The SWAP thingy you are worried about is the UNIX way to move things to the side desk, that have not been used recently, versus taking up room on the main desk and making it messy. Main Memory == Currently working on and actively using area Swap Memory (on disk) == Easily accessible side table/desk, where stuff is still open but not actively worked on exist. Disk == the Storage Cabinet where all the stuff is stored in hard form and takes a bit to retrieve. Just to let you know Ashton, I've got some 10+ year old servers that have REALLY old Linux on them. Some have been up and running since the last time they were shut down in November of 2006 (during a re-racking that had to happen). I've only got one that is giving me irritation and should probably be rebooted, but its got the case of the sporadic problems, nothing solidly wrong, just a few (of the HYARGE numbers of them) cron jobs failing randomly. Nothing repeatable, but its a sign that memory leaks are happening. Its the price you pay for uptime and stability (1000+ days). So, your worry about accumulating cruft in the OS Bowels is unfounded, unless you are installing and uninstalling programs willy nilly. Doing updates and your core programs like FireFox and OpenOffice (I'd like to suggest iWork... as its very nice for its job), the installation replaces the previous stuff and is very nicely done. Since OSX doesn't have most of the downfalls of Windows in this regard... duly ignore it.
Post #319,070 by pwhysall 12/24/09 4:08:11 AM Reply	Re: All I have to say is this... UNIX is far more bulletproof and water-resistant and torpedo proof than anything else out there ...apart from VMS.
Post #319,076 by static 12/24/09 6:03:20 AM Reply	I have to add... ... that in their own, unique ways, OS/390, Tandem NonStop and probably dozens of others were also quite bulletproof in their day and for their time. :-) Wade. Q:Is it proper to eat cheeseburgers with your fingers? A:No, the fingers should be eaten separately.
Post #319,099 by folkert 12/24/09 12:21:01 PM Reply	So... where is VMS on the Desktop?
Post #319,102 by pwhysall 12/24/09 12:46:45 PM Reply	Irrelevant UNIX is far more bulletproof and water-resistant and torpedo proof than anything else out there. I was responding to this.
Post #319,114 by folkert 12/24/09 3:09:18 PM Reply	Guess since you are an obtuse individual... I need to be acute. Nothing like talk past each other.

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