Re: Suggestions on how to structure something

Post #318,493 by malraux 12/12/09 9:51:16 PM Reply	Re: Suggestions on how to structure something Messages format themselves (or have an associated formatter). Queues send messages. As to the other question, who cares. If there's only going to be one, use a Singleton or static. If you might have different queues (immediate vs. scheduled, maybe, or high vs. low priority, whatever) than instantiate one for each. Did you look for any open source utilities that do this already? Regards, -scott Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
Post #318,494 by drook 12/13/09 12:30:03 AM Reply	I'm using one There are a bunch of options to pay for a hosted solution, and several pricey shrink-wrap packages. But this doesn't seem to have attracted much OS love, probably because it's viewed as spam tools by most people. The one I'm using already does 95% of what I want, but the last 5% is a bitch to add because it's so badly structured. And the bug I'm trying to trace is somewhere in the middle of a 620-line file with only two functions in it -- the ones I added for logging, and managing a lock file. I suspect about 200-250 lines of it will be redundant once I refactor it. -- Drew
Post #318,496 by static 12/13/09 12:47:14 AM Reply	It's in PHP, isn't it? Welcome to my world. PHP isn't a bad language in and of itself. Unfortunately, most PHP programmers are barely average. I've inherited several PHP projects now and most of it is pretty shitty. I've even spurned PEAR modules for their inherintly poor design and coding. Wade. Q:Is it proper to eat cheeseburgers with your fingers? A:No, the fingers should be eaten separately.
Post #318,502 by drook 12/13/09 9:52:49 AM Reply	You've got a typo there Unfortunately, most ~~PHP~~ programmers are barely average. I've inherited several ~~PHP~~ projects now and most of it is pretty shitty. Languages that are harder to work with may filter out some of the lesser programmers, but that just means the ones that are left cause more subtle and obscure bugs. The language doesn't exist that keeps the determined idiot from writing shit with it. -- Drew
Post #318,521 by static 12/13/09 5:21:32 PM Reply	I was speaking only from my own experience. :-/ Which is inheriting PHP code. But point taken. I'm embarking on some serious Java programming here and it's just occurred to me that I might find some shit in there, too, despite the presence of such involved things like Hibernate and Struts which need to be complex enough that most programmers are bad at writing. FWIW, I've noticed that obscure languages (e.g. Icon) tend to have better programmers because there's a certain enthusiasm required to use it. Wade. Q:Is it proper to eat cheeseburgers with your fingers? A:No, the fingers should be eaten separately.

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