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And your comentary on the second is just plain silly. Where would
civilization be if we let the most backward tribes determine how the planet is used? Not just our civilization. Any civilization, going all the way back to Egypt and Sumeria. No agriculture, no learning, none but the most primitive medicine, a life nasty brutish and short. Even the Incas and Aztecs would despise your viewpoint.
These people were murderous savages, and that's not just the opinion of
Indian haters. Even George Washington detested the tribes of the
Northwest, and in all other regards, he was as sympathetic to native rights as
anyone could hope for.
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"No agriculture"
corn squash beans tobbacco everything except wheat was grown by the Indians and taught to the whites and exported to europe.
"Most primitive medicine"
White medicine of the time was practiced by barbers and leeches were mainly used. The indians had a pharmacy growing around them and used it. Willow bark tea for example is where aspirin comes from.
"No learning"
the average settler was illiterate cites from Crockett, Boone and others. Washington and the founding fathers were learned men. So was Pontiac, Tecumseh, Brant and many others who were bilingual and could read and write. The oratory of the Indians even the whites conceded was magnificent.
"These people were murderous savages"
From your own writing you indicate a lack of knowledge of the subject and a PRECONCEIVED opinion on their race. You use the words "these people" refering to blacks and make a general denigration you would be considered a bigot, you would not be considered as refering to their culture.
When asked to compare the facts of frontier life all I get is the marlowe shuffle.

Now the whites were Technically superior in Ironworks and communal labors and would act much more co-hesively in actions against the Indians plus the evergrowing immigration would have pushed the Indians into their current conditions anyway.
My point is that history is to be learned so it need not be repeated. Your points were made from general knowledge of movies tv and the popular frontier myths. I offered some facts which you spurn.
Does the words preconceived notions come to mind?
I dont care if you are a racist or a bigot or an idiot.
I have no shame when I call it like I see it.
thanx,
bill

and interpret it for me. Show how a reasonable reading should have concluded. My objection was to the paragraph as written.
thanx,
bill

To me using the above paragraph you made a general false statement, either you were in a hurry and didnt want to check facts or you believe all the westerns you ever saw except somehow you missed little bigman and smoke signals. I called you on you sweeping, factually wrong generalizations so instead of going"oh gee box I didnt know all that" or rebutting with facts you accuse me of flaming you and calling you a racist. You appear to be willing to do anything except your sig.
thanx,
bill