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New Government considers Citigroup bailout
http://www.nytimes.c...bank.html?_r=1&hp
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Federal regulators were nearing approval on Sunday of a radical plan to stabilize Citigroup in which the government would soak up tens of billions of dollars in losses at the struggling bank, according to people briefed on the discussions.
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Paulson has yet a new plan. In this one the government just takes a pile of losses for Citigroup in exchange for a pile of stock.

In one sense it is amusing, because it wasn't long ago that the FDIC was looking at Citigroup to buy up other banks that where in trouble. But sudden revelations about Citigroup's actual financial situation has driven their value through the floor.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/27873985
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Sources with knowledge of the deal say government officials are now getting cold feet over the plan to buy the troubled assets from Citigroup.

Situation is still fluid and people close to the company say some sort of a deal will likely be worked out tonight. one other option being considered now is for the government to put money into citigroup.
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The whole thing is still up in the air though. The government doesn't want Citigroup to fail, as that could throw the entire finance system back into lockup. But they don't want to just give Citigroup a big pile of money either.

The article doesn't say anything, but I suspect somebody at the Treasury realized that it was politically unfeasible to give Citigroup a big pile of money right after rejecting a much smaller loan to the car makers.

Jay
New Proving that, the real test of whether you have a 'financial
system At All, is: whether you can even troubleshoot the sucker.

Evidently with This One: you cannot; it is a financial myth-'system'.

That picture of Greenspan, wide-eyed and slack-jawed -- that perpetually-Confident snake oil salesman over all those years of rote decisions -- says it all, (along with, "how could this happen ???")
Worst of all: nobody has even a miniscule notion of.. once you see your entire syllabus was a wishful collection of untested koans: H.T.F. you could actually install a brand-new Working System!

So then - will it be melted into efflorescence Before or After the mess gets handed to Obama & Co.?

Bets? Odds? It is -almost- To Laugh
(especially at all those Knowing pontifications, right up to the September massacree.)
New Bloomberg: $20B in cash from Treasury, $306B in guarantees.
http://www.bloomberg...8&refer=worldwide

I sure hope this gets Obama and his team to realize that there are too many dangers in these "too big to fail" institutions. Citi (and similar weak giants) needs to be broken up once its stable.

Cheers,
Scott.
New Response to bailout is WTF?
http://economistsvie...-citigroup-b.html

Rundown of opinions on the Citibank bailout. General consensus is that some bailout was probably needed but WTF is this thing?

Bailout is excessively complex, doesn't punish Citibank, doesn't get a decent cut for the government and probably doesn't fix Citibank's problem. A large part of the problem with the markets right now is the uncertainty and fear, and the US government changing plans on the fly and providing no clear guidance doesn't help.

The issue of the government changing bailout plans again is what jumped out at me. This is Paulson's third or fourth plan at this point, and those are just the public officially announced ones.

Jay
New The irony is that Citibank spent $100 million lobbying ...
Congress to repeal the Glass-Stegall Act in 1999 so that they could get themselves into the trouble they're in now. The rest of the financial industry supplied an additional $100 million to take them to Victory! Thank you ex-Senaor Phil Gramm (of the "Americans are whiners" fame)!

<a href=http://seekingalpha....-to-flail>Seeking Alpha</a> link.
Alex
Expand Edited by a6l6e6x Nov. 24, 2008, 02:05:05 PM EST
New Somali pirates in negotiations to buy Citi.
http://www.theglobea...tory/WBstreetwise

(via Sullivan).

Cheers,
Scott.
(Aaargh.)
New Ah.. If. Only. Bill Watterson were practicing therapy still
Only via The Comics can the nakedness of our Econ Boffins be brought home to the roiling masses
(and Econ masses - though these will dissemble -- especially current occupant of The Marcel Marceau Electric Chair of Economics Heraldry [no predictions, please]


(Though ... Greenspan naked ... ... might well smoke the Eeuuuwww wardrobe malfunction firewall)
New I already did my bit to help them
I bought my first shredder to cope with their credit card offers, which I was receiving on an almost daily basis. For a while, I was returning the shreds in the business-reply envelopes.

New OptOutPrescreen.com is your friend.
http://www.fraudguid...toutprescreen.asp

I used it several years ago and it made a huge difference - CC offers practically stopped.

HTH!

Cheers,
Scott.
     Government considers Citigroup bailout - (jay) - (8)
         Proving that, the real test of whether you have a 'financial - (Ashton)
         Bloomberg: $20B in cash from Treasury, $306B in guarantees. - (Another Scott)
         Response to bailout is WTF? - (jay)
         The irony is that Citibank spent $100 million lobbying ... - (a6l6e6x)
         Somali pirates in negotiations to buy Citi. - (Another Scott) - (1)
             Ah.. If. Only. Bill Watterson were practicing therapy still - (Ashton)
         I already did my bit to help them - (mhuber) - (1)
             OptOutPrescreen.com is your friend. - (Another Scott)

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