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New works well for gravies, some sauces need the flour for taste
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New add some file for taste
Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?
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New If you can taste the flour, you're doing it wrong.
That's why all flour-based sauce recipes include at least ten minutes of simmering: To make the taste of flour go away.

The old-fashioned way to make wallpaper glue was by mixing flour into boiling water; that recipe didn't, for obvious reasons, include boiling out the flour taste. ver licked the backside of old wallpaper? Not the greatest of taste experiences, let me tell you.


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New Not entirely.
You're thinking of white or blond roux, which is mainly to thicken. Fifteen or twenty years ago, dark roux was in style when Cajun cooking was in high favor. A dark roux is also supposed to add flavor. You wouldn't want to taste flour in a bechamel but a dark roux gives a gumbo a distinctive flavor. I still like to make gumbo, but I fry down okra to get the dark taste. Whatever floats your boat, I guess.
New To remove the raw flour taste . . .
. . is why you fry the flour in butter to make a roux.

In the traditional French Cuisine, when making up a big batch of a basic brown or white sauce the roux is stirred into the sauce. The sauce would then be simmered very slowly during which time the thickening starch would dissolve and the non-soluble parts of the flour would slowly form a scum on top to be skimmed off by a watchful kitchen boy (today that would be an illegal from Guatemala).

Escoffier stated in his books that in the future pure starches would be used to eliminate the costly skimming, but since he stuck to traditional methods, so did his followers.

Pure starches need to be selected with care - some produce a shiny "cheap Chinese restaurant" effect, others don't.
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New evil impure thought picture
ever licked the backside of old wallflower?
thanx,
bill
Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 51 years. meep

reach me at [link|mailto:bill.oxley@cox.net|mailto:bill.oxley@cox.net]
New That, *and* wall*paper* too!
:-)
     C'est un petit monde apr\ufffds tous. - (imqwerky) - (41)
         It's about effing time. - (CRConrad) - (40)
             But I shall fight back . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (39)
                 "But I am not left-handed" :-) - (imqwerky)
                 "Mapie"? p -> r ==> "Marie", peut-etre? -NT - (CRConrad) - (32)
                     Je concours! - (imqwerky) - (30)
                         It is an excellent book . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (29)
                             I am very good at making sauces (img) - (imqwerky) - (28)
                                 Well, it looks a lot more effective . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (27)
                                     Actually, I forgot to mention... - (imqwerky) - (26)
                                         Well, I've never tried it . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (17)
                                             When I start experiementing (evil laugh!! >:-) ) - (imqwerky) - (16)
                                                 Just ran across a note in a Japanese cookbook. - (Andrew Grygus) - (15)
                                                     *KISS* - (imqwerky) - (14)
                                                         Look into tamari style soy soauces. - (Andrew Grygus) - (9)
                                                             Set up an "underground railroad" for her. - (CRConrad) - (3)
                                                                 I have an order in at a local health food store :-) - (imqwerky) - (2)
                                                                     Well, that's Texas, I guess. - (Andrew Grygus) - (1)
                                                                         Why Soitenly! Nuk Nuk Nuk! - (imqwerky)
                                                             While I was at the Korean grocery . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (4)
                                                                 Glad to know that. - (imqwerky) - (3)
                                                                     Aromatic Rice. - (Andrew Grygus) - (2)
                                                                         Chili Juanita! (new thread) - (imqwerky)
                                                                         Basmati rice is amazing. One of the truly great foods. -NT - (Another Scott)
                                                         Scored 2 boxes of mochiko flour . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (3)
                                                             OT: ? aaxnet.com works fine here. -NT - (Another Scott) - (2)
                                                                 Yes, the Web site has no problems, but . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (1)
                                                                     OIC. Best of luck. -NT - (Another Scott)
                                         s/flour/cornstarch/g taste better and lumps less -NT - (boxley) - (7)
                                             works well for gravies, some sauces need the flour for taste -NT - (bepatient) - (6)
                                                 add some file for taste -NT - (boxley)
                                                 If you can taste the flour, you're doing it wrong. - (CRConrad) - (4)
                                                     Not entirely. - (hnick)
                                                     To remove the raw flour taste . . . - (Andrew Grygus)
                                                     evil impure thought picture - (boxley) - (1)
                                                         That, *and* wall*paper* too! -NT - (CRConrad)
                     Says "Mapie" on the title page and cover . . . - (Andrew Grygus)
                 What? No Julia Child? -NT - (a6l6e6x) - (4)
                     Those were just his French cookbooks -NT - (bepatient) - (3)
                         Re: Those were just his French cookbooks - (a6l6e6x) - (2)
                             I loved her series with Jaques Pepin - (imqwerky)
                             A secondary source. (new thread) - (Andrew Grygus)

Worth getting into a flame war on the New York Times crossword blog.
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