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New You killed it!?!
My love for you is as dead as that raccoon. :-(
New The real question is...
How did he cook it?
New Sorry, i'm just not up to . . .
. . gutting and skinning a coon at 2:30am, even though I know they are delicious cooked (I had coon as a child in New Jersey).
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New When you have a reaccoon intent on killing . . .
. . a whole flock of your pigeons just for fun (not to eat - just for the fun of killing them), you lose your love for raccoons real fast.

I am the keeper of the doves. They trust me to take care of them (they are not confined). Anything that wants to slaughter them needs to be ready to answer to me.

I try discipline first - this one had three chances and came back for a fourth.

Further, their feces is infested with several dangerous parasites and diseases that can infect humans, and they carry rabies (they don't die of it so they're always dangerous), trichinosis and several other serious diseases. They aren't real good to have around.
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Expand Edited by Andrew Grygus Nov. 23, 2007, 08:04:37 PM EST
Expand Edited by Andrew Grygus Nov. 23, 2007, 10:43:12 PM EST
New Overall, I see your point
You had to save your birds. Not being a big fan of birds, I have a hard time relating to that, but if a mountain lion were attacking my kids I probably do the same thing.

*BUT* (and you knew this was coming)...

1. Do you really think raccoons have the capacity to kill for fun? Instinct maybe. Practice maybe. But fun? I thought only humans did that. (And maybe some higher primates)

2. So they carry parasites and disease. So do we. And we also destroy the habitats of millions of species of plants and animals. And then we get annoyed when the animals invade our turf. We arent real good to have around, either.
New #1 Yes.
Many people, particularly on the religious right (no, I'm not accusing you of belonging to that group) are very uncomfortable with how much alike animals and humans are. Science continuously brings them closer. Do animals play? Yes. Do raccoons kill for fun? I'm quite certain some do.

In this case it was very clear from his behavior and voice this raccoon's companion knew there was a problem and that she shouldn't be in the coup. She wouldn't listen to him or to me, she wanted to kill pigeons. Period.

It is he I feel sad for. He was injured (not seriously) on her account and had to watch his wife die a horrible death. He isn't going to be feeling good for some time now.

#2 Parasites and diseases: Yes, we all carry them. Those carried by raccoons are of particular danger to humans though.

#2 Habitat: Yes, we have destroyed a lot of habitat. We have also built what ecological scientists call "the great urban forest". Many, though certainly not all, species have become highly acclimated to this environment, raccoons among them.

Here, a mile or more from the nearest undeveloped space, I see many times as much wildlife as I did on our (mostly abandoned) farm and forest in New Jersey.

So no. I do not feel sorry for killing this raccoon. Yes, I'm sad for her companion, and for the pigeons she killed and for their companions.

Pigeons are gentle, very family oriented, creatures (and vegetarian). They have personalities and relationships like all the rest of us do. They will even take over the feeding of another pigeon's child if that becomes necessary. They enjoy flying and fighting, splashing in water and building nests. They do not deserve to be killed for fun.
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New Oh boy
I dont want you to feel sorry for anything. Just sharing that I couldnt do what you did.
And yes, I still love you.
New Cats, on the other hand . . .
. . are not so much of a problem. They may not know "right" from "wrong" (our concept of it anyway) but they have a very keen sense of what they can get away with.

I met the smartest cat in the world in my pigeon coop, many years ago. It was before the condos were built. I was working in the back yard and a guy over the back fence asked, "Do you know there's a cat in your pigeon coop?"

I thanked him for the notice and went to investigate. Sure enough, there was a big orange cat in the rafters, and all the pigeons were on the other side of the coop watching the cat with intense interest.

I walked up to the cat, who was just above eye level. He sized up the situation, rolled off the rafter into my arms and started to purr.

I mean, what can you do with a cat like that except put him out and tell him not to try that again.

How do I know he was the smartest cat in the world? Because I never saw him again. He correctly calculated that this trick would work exactly once, and that next time pain would be involved.

Cats are very responsive to being whacked with a stick. It's not the minor pain, it's the intense injury to their dignity that's just too much to bare. They'll do whatever it takes to avoid that happening again.

Possums, on the other hand are just too stupid to learn from anything, including a good whipping, but they aren't up to the extreme gymnastics necessary to get into the coop, nor do they have strength enough to pull wire away, so I haven't had possum problems for years now.
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New Cats
I am growing less fond of them.

Murder cat (the one I got from my psycho killer patient) just cost me $454.00. I had to get her spayed. Then vaccinated. And tested for kitty diseases. I had to- I have 2 other cats in the house, and who knows what crap this cat was carrying.

And she had fleas. UGGGGHHHHH!! Which means I had to treat all 3 cats, which cost me an additional $80. And where do they sleep? MY BED. So I had to wash all the bedding and vacuum the mattress. I found 2 dead fleas. I havent seen anymore. Nobody is scratching, so that's a good sign.

Stupid free cat. She sucked me in with that cute widdle face and those big green eyes.

I've learned my lesson.
New Yup, they sure know how to manipulate people.
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New Only if you let them.
Of course, it's not hard to let them when they're Too Damned Cute.

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New Adorable :-)
Smile,
Amy
New Go easy on him, Bio
That coon had it coming. He tried to be humane. He had to protect the birds.
Smile,
Amy
New Sentient LRPD
I can eat just so many per week and both my feezer compartments are full.
     Racket Coons again. - (Andrew Grygus) - (18)
         You don't need NJ squirrels to make things interesting! :) -NT - (a6l6e6x) - (1)
             :-) -NT - (Another Scott)
         Irritating for you, Entertaining for us -NT - (imqwerky)
         Raccoons are apparently slow learners . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (14)
             You killed it!?! - (bionerd) - (13)
                 The real question is... - (crazy) - (1)
                     Sorry, i'm just not up to . . . - (Andrew Grygus)
                 When you have a reaccoon intent on killing . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (8)
                     Overall, I see your point - (bionerd) - (7)
                         #1 Yes. - (Andrew Grygus) - (6)
                             Oh boy - (bionerd) - (5)
                                 Cats, on the other hand . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (4)
                                     Cats - (bionerd) - (3)
                                         Yup, they sure know how to manipulate people. -NT - (Andrew Grygus) - (2)
                                             Only if you let them. - (n3jja) - (1)
                                                 Adorable :-) -NT - (imqwerky)
                 Go easy on him, Bio - (imqwerky) - (1)
                     Sentient LRPD - (crazy)

The names have been changed to protect the innocent.
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