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New Swiftboat moneyman offers 1 mil to "prove they lied"
T. Boone Pickens offered a million dollars if anyone could disprove any of the allegations made by the organization known as Swiftboat Veterans for Truth. Offer [link|http://news.bostonherald.com/news/national/politics/general/view.bg?articleid=1045198|accepted].

Since then the offer has been, shall we say, [link|http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/11/16/19499/696|amended]. Kerry's [link|http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/11/20/191153/68|response].

I must remind you, however, that this was and is your "challenge," not mine. You are, after all, the one who said explicitly at the dinner \ufffd in a way that was calculated to challenge any naysayer \ufffd that you would give one million dollars "to anyone who could show that anything the SBVT said was false." (RedState.Com) These were your words \ufffd and nowhere did you ever suggest, as you are now trying to, that your challenge referred specifically and exclusively to any advertising by the SBVT.
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In his first Inaugural Address, Ronald Reagan remarked that \ufffdgovernment is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.\ufffd While the quip has provided Republicans with a cheap slogan for two decades, the philosophy behind it is beginning to box them in. If they govern effectively, they invalidate their own antigovernment ideology. And when you elect people who believe that government won\ufffdt work, you shouldn\ufffdt be surprised when government stops working.
-Markos Moulitsas Z\ufffdniga
New Surely the challange was doomed from the start?
The purpose of such a challange, of course, is not to prove or disprove anything but to control the game and make critics look bad. If John Kerry was dumb enough to provide all the original documentation, they'd just trawl (or forge) for new dirt and shift the debate from disproof of the original allegations.

However, I thought enough of John Kerry's military record was already known to disprove the Swiftboat Veterans for Truth. I thought anybody who could be bothered to think could easily see it was all crap but SWFT were simply lying loud and often enough. If Pickens didn't make the mistake of changing the rules without a 'valid' reason, his challangers could simply quote existing evidence and claim further documentation is unnecessary. Surely, T. Boone Picken's challange was doomed from the start?
Matthew Greet


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New am I missing something?
all swiftboat allegations were made thru political ads, the charges are bogus and as fucked up as nam was. Kerry was there, got shot at and left, like many others. Pickens owes some money, lets see where it goes.
thanx,
bill
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New The difference is that
he never expected to be called on it.

     Swiftboat moneyman offers 1 mil to "prove they lied" - (Silverlock) - (3)
         Surely the challange was doomed from the start? - (warmachine)
         am I missing something? - (boxley) - (1)
             The difference is that - (Simon_Jester)

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