If you had enough pain

Post #292,992 by bepatient 9/15/07 10:21:39 PM Reply	If you had enough pain to require daily morphine...how elective do you think >you< would feel it was? Too much of today's music is fashionable crap dressed as artistry._{Adrian Belew}
Post #292,993 by Another Scott 9/15/07 10:42:04 PM Reply	If I needed morphine every day... and I was healthy enough for surgery, then I would do what it took to qualify for surgery so that I wouldn't need opiates. Some people, like Nuttall apparently, make other choices. My FIL took morphine (MS Contin) daily for years near the end of his life, and took Percocet "as needed" during that time. He basically became an addict because he would lose track of how many he took during the day, and would call up his various physicians crying that he needed an emergency prescription before the end of the month (when the pills should have run out). Once he moved in with us, we were able to successfully wean him off the stuff over a period of time and the last year or two of his life he didn't need it (Tylenol was sufficient, and opiates were very bad for him because they suppress respiration). If an 85+ year old man with chronic back pain from scoliosis can be weaned off a long-term addiction to morphine and Percocet, then a 57 year old man can quit smoking for a month. I may not convince you and crazy, but you'll not convince me that Nuttall is being treated unfairly by his GP and the NHS. Cheers, Scott.
Post #292,994 by crazy 9/15/07 10:59:12 PM Reply	"alleviate severe pain." 3 broken bones. On a foot, which means either use a wheel chair or be in agony on every step. Just lovely.
Post #292,995 by Another Scott 9/15/07 11:02:07 PM Reply	"Life sucks, then you die". :-/
Post #293,003 by Arkadiy 9/16/07 1:56:53 AM Reply	Good Saying Do you want it to be the motto of your healthcare system? I've just read the thread - I am at a loss for words. To think that a doctor would use patient's pain as a leverage to get him to alter his lifestyle... In any decent system, the patient should be explained the risks, and if he chooses to go on, it should be his right to go on. ------ 179. I will not outsource core functions. -- [link\|http://omega.med.yale.edu/~pcy5/misc/overlord2.htm\|.]
Post #293,010 by Another Scott 9/16/07 9:12:46 AM Reply	It's from The Fools. [link\|http://www.thefools-band.com/FoolsMP3/lifesucks.mp3\|Life Sucks] (.mp3 excerpt). [link\|http://digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/lyrics2/nov_lifesucks.html\|Lyrics]. It's a good party song. ;-) In any decent system, the patient should be explained the risks, and if he chooses to go on, it should be his right to go on. I disagree; but I'd be repeating myself to say much more. Do note that the UK has recently [link\|http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/4709258.stm\|banned smoking] in public enclosed places and private clubs. For medical reasons. In Scotland, where the ban was imposed last year, [link\|http://news.scotsman.com/health.cfm?id=1451402007\|heart attacks have dropped by 17%-20%]. It's not unreasonable to require that a surgery patient quit smoking before he gets a place in the queue. They're not refusing to treat his pain. Cheers, Scott.
Post #293,009 by pwhysall 9/16/07 8:14:58 AM Reply	If I had that much pain... ...I'd be doing whatever my doctors told me to, up to and including macrame models of the Eiffel Tower, if I thought it'd speed up the process. Peter [link\|http://www.no2id.net/\|Don't Let The Terrorists Win] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes! [link\|http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?pwhysall\|A better terminal emulator] [image\|http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h262/pwhysall/Misc/saveus.png\|0\|Darwinia\|\|]

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