You have to command it

Post #29,228 by tuberculosis 2/21/02 11:59:34 AM Reply	You have to command it IOW, you need to set your own boundaries. Response to boss - "I'm not you - you're not me - I'm not coming in until I'm better". The average hunter gatherer works 20 hours a week. The average farmer works 40 hours a week. The average programmer works 60 hours a week. What the hell are we thinking?
Post #29,323 by nking 2/21/02 10:07:58 PM Reply	Why didn't they love me? I tried that, but it was answered with a "come back, or don't come back at all" message that if I didn't come back I would get terminated. Next to these managers I had, Vince McMahon of the WWF is a saint. "Will code Visual BASIC for cash."
Post #29,391 by marlowe 2/22/02 1:10:23 PM Reply	They have to respect you before they can love you. And they have to fear you before they can respect you. A lot of people are like this, and this is the only way that works with them. Maybe this why the Old Testament God seems so heavyhanded sometimes. If you've got an employer like that, always get things in writing. Like doctor's orders. Get it in writing, and signed. CYA, and be ready to fight in court. Let them know you're ready to fight in court. And if they call your bluff, well, don't have been bluffing. Get in touch with all the advocacy groups you can, and see if any will help foot the bill. Not all bleeding hearts are useless, just most of the noisier ones. [link\|http://www.angelfire.com/ca3/marlowe/index.html\|http://www.angelfir...e/index.html] Truth is that which is the case. Accept no substitutes.
Post #29,456 by nking 2/22/02 10:11:17 PM Reply	Then they shall fear me! What advocacy groups are there and how do I get in contact with them? I am not sure where to look. What kind are there? Any for computer workers, like Computer Geeks Anonymous who are abused by their employers? "Will code Visual BASIC for cash."
Post #29,463 by a6l6e6x 2/22/02 10:44:34 PM Reply	Re: Then they shall fear me! Not exactly what you want, but one place to start: [link\|http://www.programmersguild.org/american.htm\|Programmer's Guild.] Note the [link\|http://www.programmersguild.org/Guild/howto.htm\|"How to tell bad company"] link. Alex "Of course, you realize this means war." -B. Bunny

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