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Post #292,117 by pwhysall 9/2/07 1:56:54 AM Reply	Logic Here's the kicker: no-one else has the problems you do. There's a wide range of platforms and browsers used by the people here, and it seems that only you have these very unusual problems. Further, the only thing that changed with this upgrade was the database - the HTML you get today is the same HTML you got yesterday. Taken together - problem isolated to you, and nothing presented to the browser has changed - it's hard to get away from the conclusion that there's something weird about your computer. (Which there is. You're running Windows 98.) (Which about:config options are missing? I b'leev that Firefox presents a complete Gecko experience, in the same way as Seamonkey.) I have a UNIX-only computer that would do for you, Ashton - a Mac, running OS X. What I think you think you're not ready for is Linux, where the desktop experience can have some rough edges (although, TBH, it's considerably less annoying than Windows, and is probably more suitable than you think). Snag a 30-day demo of VMWare and have a go with an assortment of distributions. Peter [link\|http://www.no2id.net/\|Don't Let The Terrorists Win] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes! [link\|http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?pwhysall\|A better terminal emulator] [image\|http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h262/pwhysall/Misc/saveus.png\|0\|Darwinia\|\|]
Post #292,119 by Ashton 9/2/07 6:52:16 AM Reply	Commutative logic: 1) My ancient OS + legacy-Suite works fine elsewhere. 2) But nobody here (yet reporting in) has similar glitch. (1-x) <> (1-y) ? Presumably the timing is coincidence, but I still don't like Magic. Triage then: ancient-OS and/or unhip-SeaMonkey? -- so I did d/l the 2.x FFox; using it here. No white-space phenom, do far. Apples? Sure, shiny. Yep, neighbor has TWO - last year's MacBook and then the first dual-core Intel hermaphrodite. Neato gadgetry.. pix of ~ 30 hummingbirds at feeders, stunning screen display etc. But she got pwned, Apple + the HP/XP ... some confusion in connecting to a school's WiFi (across street) and not her cable ISP. But I saw the logs - that sleek n/b was a zombie for a while (no surprise on the Beastware, of course. Ever.) FF failed to seek or find cookies, abook, bookmarks etc. Bookmarks, 2.4 MB, I had to try to import as a file. FF promptly crashed. 3x. First Moz product I've installed - which couldn't/wouldn't sync with another Moz product, bookmarks size aside: how about That? Maybe I'll be able to sort out most of the config by some file substitutions [there's no 'import important cookies', for ex. PITA to login at 10 places, do PWs from scratch] You can't just rename, overwrite b/mark files, though. Next Q: Whether the nix version of FF can handle as large a bmark file as wimpy old SeaMonkey, on 98. Nowhere have I found a Moz HINT re an upper-limit for bookmark file size, but still: SMonkey runs fine on what toasts FF. (As to why either* should care about a trivial few MB in a bloody HTML file ... I'm all ears.) Suppose those memory leaks in FF 1.xx are fixed in 2.x? Like I said -- we're all still doing CP/M with lipstick. OK: maybe except OS X and its purty face -- at least until Steve stirs in just a few more Insanely-great new modules, perhaps one with a tiny hole to sudoesque admin chops (?) Can any OS perpetually withstand the Greed motive? So for me it's FFox and no data access - to see IWE, for a time. SeaMonkey for elsewhere. Not long to switch, of course But dumb to have to screw with both. (And will be even more annoying if I have to split b/marks into 2 files, load one; erase - then load other. I don't think the cute Foxmarks Synchronizer plug-in can ameliorate a design flaw.) ..all in a day's work ... for CP/M RepairMan
Post #292,120 by pwhysall 9/2/07 7:25:37 AM Reply	Send me your bookmarks file. I'm curious about that. I had FF and Seamonkey sharing a profile for a while, and that worked OK. Not surprising, really, because it's the same code. Don't forget to remove the wild monkey porn links first, though. Peter [link\|http://www.no2id.net/\|Don't Let The Terrorists Win] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes! [link\|http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?pwhysall\|A better terminal emulator] [image\|http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h262/pwhysall/Misc/saveus.png\|0\|Darwinia\|\|]
Post #292,132 by imqwerky 9/2/07 11:08:55 AM Reply	ICLRPD (new thread) Created as new thread #292131 titled [link\|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=292131\|ICLRPD] Smile, Amy
Post #292,178 by Ashton 9/2/07 8:29:12 PM Reply	Re: Send me your bookmarks file. Thanks for kind offer. May just do that, but after I also look further into "bookmark file integrity checks" - which must be a Popular thing-to-go-wrong, at 955K hits, Eh? YAN thing to be scrutinized. I WON'T have to painfully deconstruct the sucker if.. it's broken AND fixable! (I also put FF, SM in same profile - so expected the install to do what every other moz install had performed, so amazingly seamlessly. Maybe FF was smart enough to see a problem in the b/m file before nuking itself? so defaulted to basic. I'd like to think so .. Still - cookies, other .js prefs were ignored, too.) Cthulhu's way of telling me - it's time, actually to break it into 2 or more pieces. I think I'm not alone in using b/ms as a lo-grade data-base; not its intended purpose - especially since nowadays each entry has all that wasted icon overhead, etc. The trouble with relying on Search - as with a Info-Select-like random file - is coming True: there are few folders == lots of boring editing, ever to wreak unhavoc. I shall try grouping things, see how multiple Export works; test if Import into a smaller base file is copacetic. (Foxmarks' handy web storage, to move results to the nix boxes looks handy -- I see, at their site, that feature was a SYA for someone whose new ap ate his main, backup files. Since I eschew networks - I have to burn CDs for sneaker net, etc. Silly. Foxmarks add-on.. think I'm in love.) Curious to determine, at least whether it is really a size matter, or corruption - I do not grok the organizational (scripting?) which tidies up after deletions, moves and such; calling it an 'html' file is about as revealing as, nix MAN __ is loquacious. Hope one of the 900K links above can educate moi. ('Course what its brokenness has to do with White Space here..) But Hey.. once I can move basic mail, bmark stuff cross-platform sans CL editing of &^$#$ config nitpickery / settle on ?which? distro of the several that have passed through here: maybe the effete P-III can finally be decommissioned as main web-thingy. 0.6 --> 1.4 GHz Vroooom. And no more AVG, Spybot ... beastware nonsense. Neanderthals for Pretty GUIs (and voice configuration)
Post #292,180 by Another Scott 9/2/07 9:12:09 PM Reply	Even if it's not corrupt, it's likely to have lots of cruft. Have a look at [link\|http://home.snafu.de/tilman/xenulink.html\|Xenu] if you haven't already. It can check HTML for broken links, etc. It might be useful for paring down your bookmarks. I'm sure there are similar other tools. Good luck! Cheers, Scott.
Post #292,318 by Ashton 9/4/07 8:07:04 PM Reply	Assuredly; still - - Most of my use is in the notes added to Titles, historical info re scopes and test equip. - only few needs for actual linkage back, so I'll be seeking something smart enough to vet the (scripts? whatever) by which the file editing gets done re actions like Delete, Import, and every time you rearrange some few links within a huge file. Anyway, it is no help to overcoming procrastination that.. I Can! launch SM, its b/marks and Mail ap. Close, then open FF. (Although any bookmark Saves go to the bare FF file) Alas too, it seems that the SMonkey b/m file cannot launch per menu, now - clearly it or SM has a breakage. (Have to cut/paste the URL! Still beats no clue to addy.) So am forced next to grok something about the guts of a moz b/m file, as complete manual triage will greatly exceed my intention-span.. Thanks for tip.
Post #292,391 by pwhysall 9/6/07 1:43:22 AM Reply	Similar tool for Safari (new thread) Created as new thread #292390 titled [link\|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=292390\|Similar tool for Safari] Peter [link\|http://www.no2id.net/\|Don't Let The Terrorists Win] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes! [link\|http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?pwhysall\|A better terminal emulator] [image\|http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h262/pwhysall/Misc/saveus.png\|0\|Darwinia\|\|]

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