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Post #29,055
by Brandioch
2/20/02 11:28:56 AM
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New Why oh why oh why.
You'd be correct.

>IF< none of the money was from Enron's budgets. Only from the paychecks of the individuals involved.

Now, a trivia question. What other systems/agencies utilize a system similar to this?
Post #29,152
by a6l6e6x
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2/21/02 12:17:14 AM
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New Re: Why oh why oh why.
Companies expect their upper management to be "civic-minded" and use some of their wealth in "positive" ways. That's one reason they are paid so well. The pay comes with "responsibilities".

To some degree it happens to all employees. Ever see the gentle coercion in a United Way campaign at a large firm? I can imagine what goes on in corporate management meetings.

On the trivia question: State employees, for one, are often "encouraged" to support the re-election of their agency head or else the person who appointed him/her.
Alex
"Of course, you realize this means war." -B. Bunny
     Corporations and evil - (JayMehaffey) - (99) - Feb. 15, 2002, 04:34:56 PM EST
         Thanks for cutting through the bull. -NT - (Silverlock) - (3) - Feb. 15, 2002, 04:36:28 PM EST
             Figures you'd say that. -NT - (marlowe) - (1) - Feb. 16, 2002, 01:22:19 PM EST
                 Nickel. -NT - (Silverlock) - Feb. 17, 2002, 01:45:45 AM EST
             Bull? BULL???? My posts were NOT BULL!!! -NT - (mmoffitt) - Feb. 16, 2002, 03:58:57 PM EST
         But does it have to be that way? - (Brandioch) - (37) - Feb. 15, 2002, 05:12:33 PM EST
             I love those ethics. - (bepatient) - (34) - Feb. 15, 2002, 07:13:44 PM EST
                 Jawohl! - (Brandioch) - (33) - Feb. 15, 2002, 07:30:20 PM EST
                     You obviously know zero about this case..(added link) - (bepatient) - (32) - Feb. 15, 2002, 07:36:18 PM EST
                         Hmmmmm, maybe you're right. - (Brandioch) - (31) - Feb. 15, 2002, 08:18:43 PM EST
                             A jury did settle it. - (bepatient) - (30) - Feb. 17, 2002, 08:23:52 PM EST
                                 I've read the case. - (Brandioch) - (29) - Feb. 18, 2002, 01:52:33 PM EST
                                     So... - (bepatient) - (28) - Feb. 18, 2002, 02:52:36 PM EST
                                         Just giving you enough rope. - (Brandioch) - (27) - Feb. 18, 2002, 07:52:52 PM EST
                                             Answer the question. - (bepatient) - (26) - Feb. 18, 2002, 09:21:14 PM EST
                                                 You're just hanging yourself higher. - (Brandioch) - (25) - Feb. 18, 2002, 11:27:39 PM EST
                                                     Childish little prick - (drewk) - (8) - Feb. 19, 2002, 09:39:57 AM EST
                                                         how do you know he's little ? ]:-> -NT - (boxley) - Feb. 19, 2002, 09:41:45 AM EST
                                                         You can quote, but you lack understanding. - (Brandioch) - (6) - Feb. 19, 2002, 01:16:09 PM EST
                                                             You don't need to be manipulated - (drewk) - (5) - Feb. 19, 2002, 01:35:34 PM EST
                                                                 Don't hate me because I'm beautiful. - (Brandioch) - (4) - Feb. 19, 2002, 02:00:23 PM EST
                                                                     Oh, no wonder you're so upset - (drewk) - (3) - Feb. 19, 2002, 02:32:38 PM EST
                                                                         Let's go over that again. - (Brandioch) - Feb. 19, 2002, 02:56:20 PM EST
                                                                         Don't bother DK... - (bepatient) - Feb. 19, 2002, 03:19:37 PM EST
                                                                         Don't bother DK... - (bepatient) - Feb. 19, 2002, 03:20:01 PM EST
                                                     Yeah...sure... - (bepatient) - (15) - Feb. 19, 2002, 09:59:23 AM EST
                                                         *SCORE* - (Brandioch) - (14) - Feb. 19, 2002, 01:29:06 PM EST
                                                             Somebody needs to lighten up and get laid. - (Silverlock) - Feb. 19, 2002, 01:59:52 PM EST
                                                             Whatever. - (bepatient) - (12) - Feb. 19, 2002, 02:59:06 PM EST
                                                                 Weasel weasel weasel.... - (Brandioch) - (11) - Feb. 19, 2002, 03:24:09 PM EST
                                                                     The officers of Enron thank you for your support! - (a6l6e6x) - (2) - Feb. 19, 2002, 08:57:51 PM EST
                                                                         Why oh why oh why. - (Brandioch) - (1) - Feb. 20, 2002, 11:28:56 AM EST
                                                                             Re: Why oh why oh why. - (a6l6e6x) - Feb. 21, 2002, 12:17:14 AM EST
                                                                     I'm so happy for you. - (bepatient) - (7) - Feb. 19, 2002, 11:45:22 PM EST
                                                                         Hey, I'm not the one with the problem. - (Brandioch) - (6) - Feb. 20, 2002, 11:18:45 AM EST
                                                                             say what? - (boxley) - (2) - Feb. 20, 2002, 11:29:22 AM EST
                                                                                 Um, okay. "What". - (Brandioch) - (1) - Feb. 20, 2002, 11:51:11 AM EST
                                                                                     thats fine -NT - (boxley) - Feb. 20, 2002, 11:53:33 AM EST
                                                                             Are you even trying anymore? - (drewk) - (1) - Feb. 20, 2002, 11:47:52 AM EST
                                                                                 Clarification. - (Brandioch) - Feb. 20, 2002, 12:12:50 PM EST
                                                                             Sure... - (bepatient) - Feb. 21, 2002, 08:21:58 AM EST
             B & J are eeeeevil! - (rsf) - Feb. 15, 2002, 07:31:04 PM EST
             Ben and Jerry's is GONE. -NT - (mmoffitt) - Feb. 16, 2002, 03:51:47 PM EST
         Mom & Pop shops too? - (rsf) - (2) - Feb. 15, 2002, 07:24:06 PM EST
             Thank you for that. One point down. -NT - (bepatient) - Feb. 15, 2002, 07:12:53 PM EST
             That depends - (JayMehaffey) - Feb. 15, 2002, 11:49:09 PM EST
         So... - (bepatient) - (13) - Feb. 15, 2002, 07:15:52 PM EST
             Just more sympathetic magic - (Ric Locke) - (11) - Feb. 15, 2002, 08:39:09 PM EST
                 Your making my point for me - (JayMehaffey) - (10) - Feb. 15, 2002, 11:22:20 PM EST
                     Evil is as evil does - (nking) - (7) - Feb. 15, 2002, 11:58:54 PM EST
                         I wouldn't have said it quite that way - (wharris2) - Feb. 16, 2002, 12:11:46 AM EST
                         Re: Evil is as evil does - (Ric Locke) - (5) - Feb. 16, 2002, 06:52:29 PM EST
                             Then it is the evil managers - (nking) - Feb. 16, 2002, 08:42:53 PM EST
                             Trying to set some basis - (JayMehaffey) - (3) - Feb. 17, 2002, 01:05:26 AM EST
                                 Relativism - (Ric Locke) - (2) - Feb. 17, 2002, 09:17:31 PM EST
                                     Re: Relativism - (JayMehaffey) - Feb. 18, 2002, 01:23:24 AM EST
                                     Interesting. - (Brandioch) - Feb. 18, 2002, 02:05:31 PM EST
                     Evil is as evil does - (nking) - Feb. 16, 2002, 12:06:33 AM EST
                     What acts in an evil manner? - (marlowe) - Feb. 16, 2002, 01:20:04 PM EST
             Re: So... - (JayMehaffey) - Feb. 15, 2002, 11:22:26 PM EST
         Another "by that logic" - (wharris2) - (28) - Feb. 15, 2002, 11:48:33 PM EST
             How many times must I hammer this - (JayMehaffey) - (27) - Feb. 16, 2002, 12:16:14 AM EST
                 I must have overlooked it - (wharris2) - (24) - Feb. 16, 2002, 02:12:21 AM EST
                     If you get scared you must overlook it, besides you knew - (nking) - (23) - Feb. 16, 2002, 11:53:04 AM EST
                         Norm, you gotta get over this... - (hnick) - (22) - Feb. 16, 2002, 01:40:08 PM EST
                             Did you even bother to read my posts - (nking) - (2) - Feb. 16, 2002, 05:11:27 PM EST
                                 Re: Did you even bother to read my posts - (hnick) - (1) - Feb. 17, 2002, 08:13:15 AM EST
                                     Reform! - (nking) - Feb. 17, 2002, 03:12:48 PM EST
                             Interesting phrasing there. - (Brandioch) - (5) - Feb. 16, 2002, 09:19:15 PM EST
                                 Hmmmm interesting! - (nking) - Feb. 16, 2002, 10:40:49 PM EST
                                 Hmmm - (rsf) - (3) - Feb. 19, 2002, 12:17:46 AM EST
                                     We seem to have come full circle - back to the daleross(?) - (Ashton) - (2) - Feb. 19, 2002, 12:47:53 AM EST
                                         Not as stoichastic as you suggest... - (hnick) - (1) - Feb. 19, 2002, 07:57:58 AM EST
                                             Allow me to clarify. - (Brandioch) - Feb. 19, 2002, 05:42:58 PM EST
                             I think you've hit on the REAL problem... - (jb4) - (12) - Feb. 18, 2002, 02:27:32 PM EST
                                 Once that may have been true - (Silverlock) - (3) - Feb. 18, 2002, 02:35:50 PM EST
                                     Sadly, I believe you are correct. - (hnick) - (2) - Feb. 18, 2002, 06:14:49 PM EST
                                         Putting the cart before the horse - (jb4) - (1) - Feb. 19, 2002, 09:48:38 AM EST
                                             Ok, you have a point - (hnick) - Feb. 20, 2002, 07:07:44 AM EST
                                 Now this may sound silly - (nking) - (7) - Feb. 18, 2002, 09:28:36 PM EST
                                     And your point is...? - (jb4) - (5) - Feb. 20, 2002, 09:27:45 AM EST
                                         My point, dear JB, - (nking) - (4) - Feb. 20, 2002, 11:50:13 PM EST
                                             Not necessarily true - (rsf) - (3) - Feb. 21, 2002, 02:05:38 AM EST
                                                 What you fail to mention... - (jb4) - (2) - Feb. 22, 2002, 10:39:23 AM EST
                                                     I know, I know... - (rsf) - (1) - Feb. 22, 2002, 01:38:29 PM EST
                                                         At the very least - (nking) - Feb. 22, 2002, 10:23:37 PM EST
                                     And your point is...? - (jb4) - Feb. 20, 2002, 09:28:37 AM EST
                 Must you hammer this??? - (folkert) - (1) - Feb. 16, 2002, 04:38:03 PM EST
                     The part I was hammering - (JayMehaffey) - Feb. 17, 2002, 01:24:40 AM EST
         Setting aside their personal morality for the company? - (marlowe) - (6) - Feb. 16, 2002, 01:14:12 PM EST
             been there done that - (boxley) - (5) - Feb. 16, 2002, 07:18:25 PM EST
                 'Evil' Corporations..? - (Ashton) - (4) - Feb. 16, 2002, 10:21:42 PM EST
                     Arguing over definitions again, I think - (Silverlock) - (3) - Feb. 17, 2002, 01:43:09 AM EST
                         No, "Evil" fits - (Ric Locke) - (1) - Feb. 17, 2002, 09:38:57 PM EST
                             Seconded in spades. - (Ashton) - Feb. 17, 2002, 11:00:27 PM EST
                         Since a corporation by legal definition is an - (boxley) - Feb. 18, 2002, 10:02:26 AM EST
         After a long pause, my reply... - (screamer) - (3) - Feb. 18, 2002, 02:49:01 PM EST
             The kudos always go to those who - (Ashton) - Feb. 18, 2002, 06:13:57 PM EST
             Mostly I agree - (JayMehaffey) - (1) - Feb. 18, 2002, 10:12:31 PM EST
                 It's a love fest then... - (screamer) - Feb. 19, 2002, 11:48:16 AM EST

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