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New How do US evening TV schedules work?
This is probably quite a silly question, but it's been bothering me slightly ever since I visited. It was probably because I was not long enough in one city, plus the large number of channels on offer (something like 70 or 80 in the hotel in Chicago?), but I never did get the hang of a typical TV schedule, always ending up surfing semi-randonly at night.

First I'll tell you how Aussie TV scheduling works.

In Sydney and in fact across most of the country, we have four commercial stations, one government-paid-but-run-independant ([link|http://www.abc.net.au/tv/|ABC]), and one about halfway ([link|http://www.sbs.com.au/|SBS]). I can ignore one commercial station at this point ([link|http://www.tvs.org.au|TVS]) because they're very new, they don't have a lot of coverage and they don't publish their schedule where everyone else does.

Two of the other three commercial stations ([link|http://www.seven.com.au/|Seven] and [link|http://www.ninemsn.com.au|Nine]) have a gameshow or something light at 5pm, then another at 5:30, a half-hour news at 6pm, a current affairs program at 6:30, a soap or a gameshow at 7pm, an hour's episode of some series, such as a drama, at 7:30 (or two half-hours shows, 7:30 and 8) and either a movie at 8:30 or a more hour-long shows (8:30, 9:30, 10:30...), usually followed by a late news bulletin at a variable time. The third commercial station ([link|http://www.ten.com.au/|Ten]) starts a little differently, with an hour's news at 5, a soap at 6, a comedy at 6:30, usually a reality-TV show at 7, and then as above. This pattern has been in place for longer than I've been watching TV, so we're very used to working around the half-hours for things, and catching a movie at 8:30. Even Ten did this for a long time before putting their news at 5 because they couldn't compete at 6. Heck, the ABC and SBS work around that on-the-half-hour thing, too. Even though ABC's news is at 7pm, it has a current affairs program at 7:30, something half-an-hour at 8, and hour-long stuff usually at 8:30 and 9:30 or so (the ABC only runs ads for its own programs, so what might be an hour program with ads, will finish in 45 minutes on the ABC).

US TV doesn't seem to work that way. I just took a gander at some of the big US network website and their schedules. I noticed things are oriented around the o'clock. Hour-long shows start at 8, 9 and 10. There's always a news bulletin at 11pm. CBS also has news at 5pm, 6pm and 7pm (there's that much news?)! The Aussie late night news is never at a reliable time. It took me a long time to grasp why the phrase "<such and such normal/impossible thing occured>. Film at 11." was humourous.

I know this is probably one of those "why is he bothering" posts. But I'm curious. Like I said above, we're long accustomed to certain types of patterns in TV schedules in Australia. The 8:30pm movie is one of the most well-known ones. I'm curious as what the US ones are!

Wade.


Is it enough to love
Is it enough to breathe
Somebody rip my heart out
And leave me here to bleed
 
Is it enough to die
Somebody save my life
I'd rather be Anything but Ordinary
Please



-- "Anything but Ordinary" by Avril Lavigne.

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New It's actually similar here.
There are exceptions (during special occasions, some comedies and dramas will run 45 or 75 minutes to try to drag in more viewers (and allow for more ads), but network shows are designed for 30, 60 or sometimes 90 or 120 minute blocks. The last is almost always a movie. Comedies are generally in 30 minute slots, and dramas are generally in 60 minute slots. "Reality" shows are generally 60 minutes or longer, but it depends on their ratings at the moment - (I think. I don't watch those things myself.).

Local channels are similar because they're almost always tied to a network or they show reruns of old network shows.

The news is on multiple times in a row because: 1) "Rush Hour" is 3-4 hours long in many cities; 2) It's very cheap to rerun local programs; 3) There isn't network programming until 8:00 Eastern Time and syndicated shows are (likely) more expensive than rerunning a local show; 4) It gives the channels an opportunity to brag "Highest Rated Local News at 5:00!!!!!111!!" even if, say, only 30 people are watching.

Programming in the Eastern and Central time zones are usually tied together. Some show will be on at 10:00 Eastern/9:00 Central. The Pacific time zone seems to get programming at its own time slot. I'm not sure how things are generally handled in the Mountain Time zone.

[link|http://www.zap2it.com/|Zap2it] lets you look at customized TV schedules for the US. (Scroll down).

As you've noticed, we have lots of channels. Most of them are junk (shopping channels, pay-per-view, dozens of movie channels that show the same movies, 30 "music" channels, etc.), but they generally keep to the same type of schedule as the networks because that's what we're used to.

HTH a bit.

Cheers,
Scott.
New Well that explains the multiple newses.
Your hour-long blocks usually start on the hour, our's usually start on the half-hour. But I can see the Eastern/Central closeness could drive that.

I think our network system must be different to yours. Although we have 'networks', mostly this gives brand recognition and common programs to display. There doesn't seem to be a "network time band", as a lot of programs they show are the same as in the major cities most of the time, yet they fiddle all through the day, too.

I noticed the plethora of channels. I knew New York is unique in broadcast TV; I think my hotel was only feeding the free-to-air channels as there was only like 15 or so. The one in Washington looked like they picked about 70 from a much wider pool - this wasn't obvious until I got to Chicago where it looked like I just got the whole cable feed of 80-odd (maybe more), rubbish'n'all.

I did find some MythBusters one night. I thought they were just showing episode after episode. No: they showed two then repeated them. You'd never see that in Australia.

Actually , our networks are having quite a different problem with repeats. We're used to a full run of a series, so over 22 weeks (for example), there's 22 new episodes aired. This works when a whole series has finished production before we see it at all (the norm for many decades). But I've seen that US TV audiences get repeats interspersed through a first run because production can't quite keep up. We have to do the same if we want new US shows as soon as they're broadcast in the US. But Aussie audiences aren't used to this and boy do they complain... (Even Aussie dramas create themselves enough lead-time that a whole season can air without interruptions for production delays. A typical lead-time is 6 months.)

Wade.


Is it enough to love
Is it enough to breathe
Somebody rip my heart out
And leave me here to bleed
 
Is it enough to die
Somebody save my life
I'd rather be Anything but Ordinary
Please



-- "Anything but Ordinary" by Avril Lavigne.

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New had to replace my settop box yesterday
got home and noticed that my encore network and stars network wasnt working. Called and they said I hadnt ordered it. So I pay 148 per month for telly, phone and internet. They wanted $14 more a month for stars but ony $158 for all channels, phone and net. I now get 500 channels of tv and not a dam thing worth watching :-(
thanx,
bill
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New ... and I baulk at paying $40/mo for Foxtel.
Mind you, I'm already $64/mo for internet (ADSL).

One thing I sorta regret having missed out on was old 'endless channels' analogue system. I got a taste of that in Chicago. It feels so wonderfully disorganised and you can just keep going to the next one to the next one to the next one until you wrap around. And then keep going. Maybe you'll find something before you wrap around again in half-an-hour's time.

Modern digital systems don't always let you do that. They organise everything and you can find what channel you think you want by looking in a menu. :-( The Foxtel box (one of the cable systems in Australia) doesn't let you scroll endlesly. It gets lost as it transitions between some channel groups.

Wade.


Is it enough to love
Is it enough to breathe
Somebody rip my heart out
And leave me here to bleed
 
Is it enough to die
Somebody save my life
I'd rather be Anything but Ordinary
Please



-- "Anything but Ordinary" by Avril Lavigne.

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     How do US evening TV schedules work? - (static) - (4)
         It's actually similar here. - (Another Scott) - (3)
             Well that explains the multiple newses. - (static) - (2)
                 had to replace my settop box yesterday - (boxley) - (1)
                     ... and I baulk at paying $40/mo for Foxtel. - (static)

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