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Post #289,515 by bepatient 7/20/07 4:46:56 PM Reply	Problem, though is exactly >where< they decide to practice their culture. Clearly the crime is outside the bounds of the law in the UK. Regardless of cultural difference, they should be subject to the laws of the country in which they have chosen to live. Too much of today's music is fashionable crap dressed as artistry._{Adrian Belew}
Post #289,520 by folkert 7/20/07 4:58:04 PM Reply	But that is not what the Mister was asking... I agree that they broke the law. That they need to follow the standards in the country they live. Now, on the other hand, why can't we as Americans do the honor for them, rather forcing our "standards" where ever we go? I don't need to point examples out, as you know what I am talking about... umm, at least you should. -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* `PGP key: 1024D/B524687C 2003-08-05 Fingerprint: E1D3 E3D7 5850 957E FED0 2B3A ED66 6971 B524 687C Alternate Fingerprint: 09F9 1102 9D74 E35B D841 56C5 6356 88C0 Alternate Fingerprint: 455F E104 22CA 29C4 933F 9505 2B79 2AB2`
Post #289,521 by bepatient 7/20/07 5:01:10 PM Reply	I don't disagree. But I would certainly choose not to go where they enjoy this type of "culture". Too much of today's music is fashionable crap dressed as artistry._{Adrian Belew}
Post #289,523 by folkert 7/20/07 5:02:23 PM Reply	My point indeed. -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* `PGP key: 1024D/B524687C 2003-08-05 Fingerprint: E1D3 E3D7 5850 957E FED0 2B3A ED66 6971 B524 687C Alternate Fingerprint: 09F9 1102 9D74 E35B D841 56C5 6356 88C0 Alternate Fingerprint: 455F E104 22CA 29C4 933F 9505 2B79 2AB2`
Post #289,580 by Andrew Grygus 7/21/07 6:30:51 PM Reply	No. It's not just where they live. If they adopt the trappings of Western civilization anywhere they become a danger to us. If they want to have those things, things that are not of their culture, then they have to adopt the cultural standards that go with those things. Selling them guns and vehicles and stuff like that while "honoring their culture" is a lot of how we got into the mess we are in. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #289,581 by folkert 7/21/07 6:43:54 PM Reply	Well, then we aren't honoring... their culture then, are we? It goes back to saying that why do we NOT honor their culture, by "bringing democracy" or the Western crap which they feel is what causes to BE the infidels! If they want the stuff, they come here and bring it back to their own locale. Then and only then (and probably not even then) are we "blame free". -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* `PGP key: 1024D/B524687C 2003-08-05 Fingerprint: E1D3 E3D7 5850 957E FED0 2B3A ED66 6971 B524 687C Alternate Fingerprint: 09F9 1102 9D74 E35B D841 56C5 6356 88C0 Alternate Fingerprint: 455F E104 22CA 29C4 933F 9505 2B79 2AB2`
Post #289,584 by Andrew Grygus 7/21/07 7:12:23 PM 7/21/07 7:25:29 PM Reply	If they think it's what causes us to BE the infidels . . . . . then they should keep their hands off it. If they want to keep their culture pure then they should stay in their own land and reject Western stuff, not seek it as they do. We're not forcing this stuff on them - they want it. Of course one of the main reasons they want it so much is to more efficiently kill each other. Killing each other IS their culture. If they want to move to Western countries and take Western jobs, or if they want Western technology in their own country, they need to accept the culture that comes with it. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx] Edited by Andrew Grygus July 21, 2007, 07:25:29 PM EDT Expand All History

Kurd culture. - (a6l6e6x) - (10) - July 20, 2007, 04:04:52 PM EDT

Well... - (folkert) - (7) - July 20, 2007, 04:42:56 PM EDT

Problem, though - (bepatient) - (6) - July 20, 2007, 04:46:56 PM EDT

But that is not what the Mister was asking... - (folkert) - (5) - July 20, 2007, 04:58:04 PM EDT

I don't disagree. - (bepatient) - (1) - July 20, 2007, 05:01:10 PM EDT

My point indeed. -NT - (folkert) - July 20, 2007, 05:02:23 PM EDT

No. - (Andrew Grygus) - (2) - July 21, 2007, 06:30:51 PM EDT

Well, then we aren't honoring... - (folkert) - (1) - July 21, 2007, 06:43:54 PM EDT

If they think it's what causes us to BE the infidels . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - July 21, 2007, 07:25:29 PM EDT

parsing the story - (boxley) - (1) - July 20, 2007, 04:48:01 PM EDT

OK, so the ex was the only one that did the raping. - (a6l6e6x) - July 20, 2007, 08:58:18 PM EDT

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