More Security Theatre

Thanks to Bruce Schneier for that phrase, which perfectly describes the latest [link|http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/06/15/news/visa.php|proposal] to help fight the Wah on Terrah.

Here's the deal. Filthy Furriners will have to provide details of their travel plans to the DHS, 48 hours in advance.

"Excellent," say the terrorists, "We'll just use US or Saudi nationals, travelling on valid ID, who aren't known to the authorities. Worked before, will work again."

I'm assuming that "travel" means "travelling into or out of the USA".

Timeline:

2008: Foreigners from some countries required to register travel plans in advance.
2009: All non-US nationals required to register travel plans.
2010: Some US citizens, according to National Security Criteria (disagree and you're un-American, etc) required to register travel plans.
2011: For your safety and convenience, please register all travel plans on the DHS website. Failure to do so could mean you don't fly.
2012: In order to enhance your security, please register all interstate travel plans on the DHS website. If you are stopped at a border and are unregistered, you may be fined, jailed and your vehicle confiscated.

Possible? Certainly.
Probable? Up to the 2010 thing, I think so.
Plausible? Depressingly so.

Post #287,088 by pwhysall 6/16/07 5:34:30 AM Reply	More Security Theatre Thanks to Bruce Schneier for that phrase, which perfectly describes the latest [link\|http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/06/15/news/visa.php\|proposal] to help fight the Wah on Terrah. Here's the deal. Filthy Furriners will have to provide details of their travel plans to the DHS, 48 hours in advance. "Excellent," say the terrorists, "We'll just use US or Saudi nationals, travelling on valid ID, who aren't known to the authorities. Worked before, will work again." I'm assuming that "travel" means "travelling into or out of the USA". Timeline: 2008: Foreigners from some countries required to register travel plans in advance. 2009: All non-US nationals required to register travel plans. 2010: Some US citizens, according to National Security Criteria (disagree and you're un-American, etc) required to register travel plans. 2011: For your safety and convenience, please register all travel plans on the DHS website. Failure to do so could mean you don't fly. 2012: In order to enhance your security, please register all interstate travel plans on the DHS website. If you are stopped at a border and are unregistered, you may be fined, jailed and your vehicle confiscated. Possible? Certainly. Probable? Up to the 2010 thing, I think so. Plausible? Depressingly so. Peter [link\|http://www.no2id.net/\|Don't Let The Terrorists Win] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes! [link\|http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?pwhysall\|A better terminal emulator] [image\|http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h262/pwhysall/Misc/saveus.png\|0\|Darwinia\|\|]
Post #287,093 by boxley 6/16/07 6:46:03 AM Reply	well you foreign filth are you gonna be able to come over and visit us before then? Assuming flights ever get affordable. thanx, bill Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari? Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 51 years. meep reach me at [link\|mailto:bill.oxley@cox.net\|mailto:bill.oxley@cox.net]
Post #287,096 by Another Scott 6/16/07 8:27:46 AM Reply	Don't visit via NY Airports if at all possible. (new thread) Created as new thread #287095 titled [link\|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=287095\|Don't visit via NY Airports if at all possible.]
Post #287,172 by drewk 6/17/07 7:30:11 PM Reply	Whaddaya mean "up to the 2010 thing"? There are already people who can't travel without getting their plans approved in advance. Well, technically they're allowed to travel without pre-approval, but they seem to get held up long enough to miss their flights, often enough that they know to plan for it. === Kip Hawley is still an idiot. === Purveyor of Doc Hope's [link\|http://DocHope.com\|fresh-baked dog biscuits and pet treats]. [link\|http://DocHope.com\|http://DocHope.com]
Post #287,184 by folkert 6/17/07 9:22:00 PM Reply	Yep, especially... Ones that have terrorist liquids stored in "Sippy Cups". -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* `PGP key: 1024D/B524687C 2003-08-05 Fingerprint: E1D3 E3D7 5850 957E FED0 2B3A ED66 6971 B524 687C Alternate Fingerprint: 09F9 1102 9D74 E35B D841 56C5 6356 88C0 Alternate Fingerprint: 455F E104 22CA 29C4 933F 9505 2B79 2AB2`

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