I'm glad to find you in a more conciliatory mood
but I'm really not sure what you're looking for
The post that began this discussion was from me
I noted that 2 of my 3 Vista installs had succeeded
the one that failed was the one done by the recommended MS method
this morphed into a discussion of UAC which I believed (and believe) that several of the posters did not understand how it works for non-admin users
then the 'inevitable' shill thing came up and here we are
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