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New Re: Nice try
I'm glad to find you in a more conciliatory mood
but I'm really not sure what you're looking for

The post that began this discussion was from me
I noted that 2 of my 3 Vista installs had succeeded
the one that failed was the one done by the recommended MS method

this morphed into a discussion of UAC which I believed (and believe) that several of the posters did not understand how it works for non-admin users

then the 'inevitable' shill thing came up and here we are

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New The passing point..
...where your argument and the others seemed to "pass like ships in the night" was in the qualifier of "non-admin users".

In a locked down corp environment I think we all understand that there are things lowly users will not be able to do, like remove or disable UAC. HOWEVER, this doesn't represent most users...since they are home machines where the main user is also the admin.

As for the definition of shill, I haven't been convinced to change my perception of the word, which still aligns largely with yours.
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     I disagree - (crazy) - (18)
         Duly noted :-) - (bepatient)
         Ummm . . not quite. - (Andrew Grygus)
         Shill has connotations - (andread) - (15)
             #2 all the way - (crazy) - (14)
                 I'm a shill... - (folkert) - (13)
                     No you are not - (crazy) - (12)
                         You just proved my point -NT - (andread) - (11)
                             Go back and review "our" interactions. - (crazy) - (10)
                                 Re: Go back and review "our" interactions. - (andread) - (9)
                                     Bullsh*t - (crazy) - (8)
                                         "Paid", sic. HTH! (That goes for all people. :-) -NT - (CRConrad)
                                         Don't be so hard on him. - (Another Scott)
                                         nit, if he doesnt have much exposure outside of his - (boxley) - (1)
                                             nit not accepted - (crazy)
                                         Re: Bullsh*t - (andread) - (3)
                                             Nice try - (crazy) - (2)
                                                 Re: Nice try - (andread) - (1)
                                                     The passing point.. - (bepatient)

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