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New Windows 2000 copy and defrag.
Every once in a while I have to replace a hard disk on a Windows 2000 system. After doing a fresh install on the new disk I attach the old one to the system and copy various directories to the new drive. When I go into defrag I find a large area marked out in green which means they're flagged as "System Files".

Anyone know why this happens and how to get that area to be not green? The files and directories themselves seem to be normal, readable, writable and deletable.

[link|http://www.aaxnet.com|AAx]
New Could be a couple of things
First, if the system has hibernate enabled, that section is likely to be the area of the HD that will save the image.

Also, the "swap partition"...(pagefile.sys) will be marked as system and is on this laptop right now a file of about 1.5Gb..a significant chunk of the drive.

Lastly it could be rescue files and the cabs for a windows preload.

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New Nope, none of those.
Swap is set a 384-Meg, Hibernate has always been off and there is no preload. I installed right off a standard W2K CD onto a totally blank disk. This green area is about 1.75-Gig with a total of 3.47-Gigs of files on a 30-Gig disk.
[link|http://www.aaxnet.com|AAx]
New Raxco's Perfect Disk gives lots of info.
I haven't used Win2k's defragger in ages. I assume it's acting similarly to the way PerfectDisk does as far as handling "system" areas.

I've got PD version 6.

NTFS has 3 areas that PerfectDisk has to defragment offline:

Defragmenting System Files & Directories

Certain files cannot be defragmented online due to operating system constraints. The constraints vary by operating system (Windows 2000 and Windows 2003/XP) and by file system format (FAT/FAT32 or NTFS). For a more detailed description see Offline files for your operating system). Generally the three types of files which may need to be defragmented offline are:

Pagefile - This is your virtual memory file (Pagefile.sys). This file is exclusively locked by the operating system and can only be placed by a boot time defragmentation pass.

System Files - These are operating system files such as the Master File Table, the hibernate file and other metadata files. Depending on the operating and file systems some of these files can be defragmented online and some offline.

Directories - On NTFS formatted drives directories are treated as online files. On FAT/FAT32 formatted drives directories are treated as offline files.


I'm assuming you're seeing the [link|http://support.microsoft.com/kb/174619|MFT] and/or the [link|http://www.ntfs.com/ntfs_optimization.htm|MFT (Expansion) Zone].

HTH a bit.

Cheers,
Scott.
New I used a program called PageDefrag . . .
. . which does much of what you describe on reboot, but it found little to be done. I can see the MFT, it's right in the center of the disk where it belongs , all in one piece and is about the usual size. This big green lump is right at the beginning of the disk.
[link|http://www.aaxnet.com|AAx]
New MFT is at beginning of NTFS disks, not middle.
Executive Software's DiskKeeper can defrag the MFT at boot time, too.

It also shows where your pagefile, hiberfile and MFT are.


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Expand Edited by pwhysall June 7, 2007, 01:03:40 AM EDT
New Tis MFT and such.


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New So it's the page file that's in the middle then I presume.
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New Ar.


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     Windows 2000 copy and defrag. - (Andrew Grygus) - (8)
         Could be a couple of things - (bepatient) - (1)
             Nope, none of those. - (Andrew Grygus)
         Raxco's Perfect Disk gives lots of info. - (Another Scott) - (2)
             I used a program called PageDefrag . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (1)
                 MFT is at beginning of NTFS disks, not middle. - (pwhysall)
         Tis MFT and such. -NT - (pwhysall) - (2)
             So it's the page file that's in the middle then I presume. -NT - (Andrew Grygus) - (1)
                 Ar. -NT - (pwhysall)

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