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New Seemed like a reasonable reply to me.
There are many reasons to bitch about M$ in general and Vista in specific. Bitching because it doesn't do something like you may be used to, makes the person squawking seem like a bit of a twit.

Changing the appearance of screens is acceptable. If one can't take a few minutes to figure out a new system, maybe they should go back to their etch-a-sketch. Changing interfaces and such is somewhat nastier.

Changing the security system is acceptable if it does some good. Releasing a security system that degrades user experience and provides less security is open to criticism. Take all those stupid pop ups that require the user to go back and re-run as administrator and then still ask for a note from the users mother and a chit from the chaplain. If a malware distributer can get the user to run an installer, it can launch a service which can change all those permissions and bypass the pop ups while looting your system.

They did change the control panel applets. Now they can be written as a .exe and registered as a control panel applet. There is a mechanism that lets the author make it accessible from multiple panels. That's kind of cool IMO.

Some things are strictly personal preference. In older versions you can hit control-tab and tab through all open programs. In Vista, if you hit <window button>-tab you get all the open programs in live windows that you can tab through. Personally, I think it is a waste of processor power, but I know others that like it.

In general, saying something positive about a M$ product is not being a shill or fanboi. It may be a little more fair to skip personal accusations until something REALLY warrants it.

Just my $0.02
New You mean alt-tab; ctrl-tab is for docs within an MDI app.
New Ok. I don't have a windows machine at hand...
Since you mention it, I think you're right though...

Fallibility is just running rampant today.
New On the surface of it, yes.
But note that it *does* tend to alleviate the problem the original poster pointed out; doesn't it?

All I'm saying is that it at least *seems* to me that Old Guy seldom misses a chance to post replies of *that* kind -- while, if an equally "reasonable" reply would tend to put MS in a bad light, it's not as much a given that he'll post it.

Sure, could be coincidence... Could even be a case of over-developed $hill-radar on my part... OR, it COULD be, the most insiduous -- and in the long run, most effective -- form of $hill-ing.

It's easy to prove me wrong, if you want to: Just go through all his posts and compile the stats.

Or, the easier way: Ask him about it.

Which is what I did.


   [link|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode|Christian R. Conrad]
(I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.)
Ah, the Germans: Masters of Convoluted Simplification. — [link|http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=1603|Jehovah]
New Cool...
It seems to me, though, that since our extended downtime, tempers have become more fragile, accusations come easier, and we, as a community, seem a lot more grouchy.

It could be for any number of reasons, not the most improbable, that I'm full of shit on this point. I'm pretty sure I'm more grouchy, but I also have a list of the top 75 reasons (Vista is in the single digit section of the list.)
New +10. Inciteful.
Er, I mean, insightful.

;-)

Cheers,
Scott.
New Of course you did... :)
New Speak for yourself...
...and the rest of the guys -- I, OTOH, have of course *always* been that way! :-)

(Heh; who'd'a'thunk that orneriness would ever come in handy as a defense against accusationsclaims of -- orneriness?!)


   [link|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode|Christian R. Conrad]
(I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.)
Ah, the Germans: Masters of Convoluted Simplification. — [link|http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=1603|Jehovah]
New Ummm. Yeah.
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     Vista -- so far - (andread) - (87)
         Damning w/ faint praise - (jb4) - (86)
             Hey, I've dealt with Vista . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (85)
                 Just had my first experience with it... - (jb4) - (84)
                     I'm quite convinced they released this turkey . . . - (Andrew Grygus)
                     That might be NVidia's fault. - (inthane-chan) - (82)
                         Re: That might be NVidia's fault. - (jb4) - (81)
                             fear change - (altmann) - (80)
                                 Micros~1 redefines English...Film at 11! - (jb4) - (3)
                                     Re: Micros~1 redefines English...Film at 11! - (altmann)
                                     In the version of English I speak... - (pwhysall) - (1)
                                         **chuckle** -NT - (jb4)
                                 Remind me again... You're not an MS fanboy or shill, just... - (CRConrad) - (75)
                                     No trailing slash in HR tag, Chris. -NT - (pwhysall) - (2)
                                         Yes there is, but I think there should be a space before it -NT - (drewk) - (1)
                                             Re: Yes there is, but I think there should be a space bef - (pwhysall)
                                     Hey, don't be picking on Hubert J. Farnsworth now! - (Another Scott)
                                     Seemed like a reasonable reply to me. - (hnick) - (8)
                                         You mean alt-tab; ctrl-tab is for docs within an MDI app. -NT - (CRConrad) - (1)
                                             Ok. I don't have a windows machine at hand... - (hnick)
                                         On the surface of it, yes. - (CRConrad) - (5)
                                             Cool... - (hnick) - (4)
                                                 +10. Inciteful. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                                     Of course you did... :) -NT - (hnick)
                                                 Speak for yourself... - (CRConrad) - (1)
                                                     Ummm. Yeah. -NT - (folkert)
                                     It's not easy being.... - (andread) - (61)
                                         "Works reasonably well" - (pwhysall) - (58)
                                             every microsoft advance has never exceeded reasonably well - (boxley)
                                             An interesting rating - (crazy)
                                             Not up to your usual standard... - (andread) - (54)
                                                 Re: Not up to your usual standard... - (pwhysall) - (48)
                                                     Wrong - (andread) - (47)
                                                         What are you gibbering about, you cretin? Re-read his posts! -NT - (CRConrad) - (44)
                                                             Oh, Chuckles - (andread) - (43)
                                                                 OK, so you're just not capable of reading with comprehension -NT - (CRConrad) - (42)
                                                                     Hah - (andread) - (41)
                                                                         So how is that any the less annoying? - (pwhysall) - (40)
                                                                             Wrong in caps is still wrong - (andread) - (39)
                                                                                 Which part is wrong? - (pwhysall)
                                                                                 Ok. Lets review - (bepatient) - (37)
                                                                                     "Attack Surface"?!?! Sheesh. -NT - (Another Scott) - (2)
                                                                                         At least I didn't write it :-) - (bepatient)
                                                                                         (Isn't that pretty large - on a sponge? ;-) -NT - (Ashton)
                                                                                     I LOVE the scenario where they say disabling is reasonable - (crazy) - (1)
                                                                                         That typifies the problem with UAC: - (static)
                                                                                     Well now. - (folkert) - (4)
                                                                                         Huh? - (crazy) - (3)
                                                                                             that was my understanding - (boxley)
                                                                                             I was giving them the benefit of the doubt. - (folkert) - (1)
                                                                                                 *nod* - (pwhysall)
                                                                                     Thanks Bill - (andread) - (25)
                                                                                         Re: Thanks Bill - (pwhysall) - (24)
                                                                                             I'm thinking... - (bepatient) - (23)
                                                                                                 It's the other way around; the poor nitwit is incapable... - (CRConrad) - (22)
                                                                                                     You're wrong again - (andread) - (16)
                                                                                                         Point = Missed. Intentionally or otherwise. -NT - (mmoffitt)
                                                                                                         Thank you so much for AGAIN explaining the *purpose* of UAC. - (CRConrad)
                                                                                                         Question - (drewk) - (12)
                                                                                                             Re: Question - (andread) - (11)
                                                                                                                 ahh, cascading shills - (crazy) - (10)
                                                                                                                     The speaker was Michael J Murphy - (andread) - (9)
                                                                                                                         And I'd want to do that because? - (crazy) - (8)
                                                                                                                             Not a shill - (andread) - (7)
                                                                                                                                 Serious question: Are you brain damaged? - (crazy) - (6)
                                                                                                                                     Re: Serious question: Are you brain damaged? - (andread) - (5)
                                                                                                                                         Ah, the wonders of Wikipedia - (crazy) - (4)
                                                                                                                                             I had always understood the term by his definition. - (bepatient) - (3)
                                                                                                                                                 Indeed; if they self-identify properly, they're salespeople. -NT - (jake123)
                                                                                                                                                 I disagree (new thread) - (crazy)
                                                                                                                                                 I'm ambivalent. However, in Mega$loth's case ... - (mmoffitt)
                                                                                                         The problem here is you are defining a very limited user set - (bepatient)
                                                                                                     "he's known" - HTH </CRC> -NT - (pwhysall) - (1)
                                                                                                         Aaargh! Fixed, thanx. (I can has cheezburger now?) -NT - (CRConrad)
                                                                                                     Can't or pretends is the same in this case - (crazy) - (2)
                                                                                                         Oy you - (boxley) - (1)
                                                                                                             Oy back - (crazy)
                                                                                     Another way to disable UAC - TweakUAC. - (Another Scott)
                                                         the mac commercial explains it very well :-) -NT - (boxley)
                                                         I've got a Mac running OS X - (pwhysall)
                                                 Consider. - (static) - (4)
                                                     Vista popularity. - (Silverlock) - (3)
                                                         There have been lines. - (folkert) - (2)
                                                             So, knowing that many are paying $250 . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (1)
                                                                 There is. - (folkert)
                                             And that's only the surface... - (scoenye)
                                         Ah. Jealous, because you can't figure... - (CRConrad)
                                         best explaination of the UAC so far - (boxley)

Only you would go for the plague.
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