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Post #285,458 by ubernostrum 5/27/07 2:13:58 AM Reply	Racist? Probably not. Other words less fitting of a straw man opponent? Probably so. --\r\nYou cooin' with my bird?
Post #285,463 by bepatient 5/27/07 2:56:04 AM Reply	Not a straw man as that is how those who oppose amnesty are portrayed as has been mentioned even in posts in these very forums. Too much of today's music is fashionable crap dressed as artistry._{Adrian Belew}
Post #285,531 by ubernostrum 5/27/07 10:01:06 PM Reply	I'm reminded of certain other forums Where folks will articulate a position, and then launch off on a tirade about "all you liberal moonbats have to tell me that I'm a racist because that's what you all believe". \r\n\r\n I don't know you, so I don't honestly know what drives your beliefs, and I do my best not to jump to any conclusions. Building an argument on what you assume the other side will say, or would say, is a form of straw man. Sorry if you can't see past that. --\r\nYou cooin' with my bird?

A great case for amnesty. - (bepatient) - (29) - May 26, 2007, 09:11:02 PM EDT

Racist? Probably not. - (ubernostrum) - (2) - May 27, 2007, 02:13:58 AM EDT

Not a straw man - (bepatient) - (1) - May 27, 2007, 02:56:04 AM EDT

I'm reminded of certain other forums - (ubernostrum) - May 27, 2007, 10:01:06 PM EDT

Rereading the article...was he selling drugs to kids - (Simon_Jester) - (15) - May 27, 2007, 08:07:33 AM EDT

Most customers were in 3rd, 4th and 5th grades. - (bepatient) - (14) - May 27, 2007, 10:48:27 AM EDT

It's not a simple problem. - (Another Scott) - (13) - May 27, 2007, 11:35:54 AM EDT

On this issue - I do.... - (Simon_Jester) - (12) - May 27, 2007, 12:30:42 PM EDT

I slightly agree, but I don't think it's a "liberal" issue. - (Another Scott) - (11) - May 27, 2007, 01:42:34 PM EDT

Re: I slightly agree, but I don't think it's a "liberal" iss - (bepatient) - (9) - May 27, 2007, 02:05:05 PM EDT

Where to begin... - (Another Scott) - (1) - May 27, 2007, 02:57:20 PM EDT

In case you missed it... - (bepatient) - May 27, 2007, 04:39:12 PM EDT

You know, you're really trying way to hard to stir the pot.. - (Simon_Jester) - (6) - May 27, 2007, 11:37:48 PM EDT

Yes. Thats exactly what I'm saying. - (bepatient) - (5) - May 27, 2007, 11:53:29 PM EDT

Close.... - (Simon_Jester) - (4) - May 28, 2007, 10:37:22 AM EDT

Sure. - (bepatient) - (3) - May 28, 2007, 10:53:47 AM EDT

Sorry, still disagree on this one - (Simon_Jester) - (2) - May 28, 2007, 06:31:50 PM EDT

I guess we will - (bepatient) - (1) - May 28, 2007, 07:59:43 PM EDT

You don't look very hard - (Simon_Jester) - May 28, 2007, 09:53:28 PM EDT

My definition of liberal here - (Simon_Jester) - May 27, 2007, 11:18:44 PM EDT

Possibly - (JayMehaffey) - (7) - May 27, 2007, 12:47:07 PM EDT

No, the reality is different. - (bepatient) - (1) - May 27, 2007, 02:17:10 PM EDT

I don't see any conflict - (JayMehaffey) - May 27, 2007, 06:53:08 PM EDT

"Xenophobe", while over-broad, is at least not quite *wrong* -NT - (CRConrad) - (4) - May 27, 2007, 07:03:41 PM EDT

Again, not correct. - (bepatient) - (3) - May 27, 2007, 11:29:57 PM EDT

Based on the question Jay asked, he described his answer - (Seamus) - (2) - May 28, 2007, 09:15:16 AM EDT

The tone was not just... - (bepatient) - (1) - May 28, 2007, 10:59:20 AM EDT

I think the politics behind the non-enforcement is more than - (Seamus) - May 28, 2007, 11:15:08 AM EDT

You rang? inferentially - (Ashton) - (1) - May 28, 2007, 09:31:59 PM EDT

You linked the article - (bepatient) - May 28, 2007, 11:19:33 PM EDT

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