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by static
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5/2/07 11:03:43 PM
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New Builder pattern... :-O
The problem with such a builder pattern is two-fold: 1. Can I trust whoever wrote it did everything 'right'? 2. What happens when I need it to do something it can't do - what sort of magic do I do to fix that? OTOH, I'd like see what it is like to actually use.

I've found that real HTML isn't something you want to get too far away from. Creating broken markup is the risk of staying close. But often it's an acceptable risk.

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Post #283,752
by tuberculosis
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5/2/07 11:22:09 PM
8/21/07 6:07:31 AM
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New Two things
First - there' s nothing it can't do. Consider at its lowest level it uses something like

html tagNamed: 'exotic'

which means you can create any kind of tag you like.

Second you have the source code - extend it. There are several extensions floating around already that support things like yahoo web kit, scriptaculous effects, and so forth.

It doesn't take you far from the html however it makes you describe the document structure, not just spew bytes. Which means the structure can be verified and guaranteed.

HTML is a tree, not a stream. I've used many "templating systems". They all suck rocks for maintainability and are terribly fragile. They also don't generally enable component reuse.


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     Nifty demo of J2EE vs Zope vs RoR vs django vs etc ... - (drewk) - (32) - May 1, 2007, 11:11:06 PM EDT
         WooHoo! J2EE is the way to go! ;-) -NT - (Another Scott) - May 2, 2007, 12:10:36 AM EDT
         Thoughts... - (admin) - (27) - May 2, 2007, 12:55:54 AM EDT
             Other thoughts - (tuberculosis) - (16) - Aug. 21, 2007, 06:05:11 AM EDT
                 Other other thoughts... - (admin) - (14) - May 2, 2007, 10:44:38 AM EDT
                     Builder pattern - (tuberculosis) - (13) - Aug. 21, 2007, 06:05:30 AM EDT
                         Not impressed. - (admin) - (5) - May 2, 2007, 11:45:42 AM EDT
                             You still don't get it - (tuberculosis) - (4) - Aug. 21, 2007, 06:07:07 AM EDT
                                 No, I get it just fine. - (admin) - (3) - May 2, 2007, 11:12:10 PM EDT
                                     Been there before - maintenance Hell - not going back -NT - (tuberculosis) - (2) - Aug. 21, 2007, 06:07:34 AM EDT
                                         Your experience differs from mine. -NT - (admin) - (1) - May 2, 2007, 11:33:17 PM EDT
                                             Apparently so -NT - (tuberculosis) - Aug. 21, 2007, 06:08:11 AM EDT
                         Builder pattern... :-O - (static) - (1) - May 2, 2007, 11:03:43 PM EDT
                             Two things - (tuberculosis) - Aug. 21, 2007, 06:07:31 AM EDT
                         Oi! Even if your screen is six foot wide, not everyone's is! - (CRConrad) - (4) - May 6, 2007, 04:14:00 PM EDT
                             Do you have a 1886 Volvo CRT, too? - (Another Scott) - (1) - May 6, 2007, 04:40:00 PM EDT
                                 El Cheapo older(ish) HP laptop, 1024 x 768 I think. - (CRConrad) - May 7, 2007, 03:30:26 AM EDT
                             Yah sure - done -NT - (tuberculosis) - (1) - Aug. 21, 2007, 06:16:45 AM EDT
                                 Great, Thanks. -NT - (CRConrad) - May 7, 2007, 03:30:48 AM EDT
                 Document generation in code - (ubernostrum) - May 5, 2007, 12:58:53 AM EDT
             Thanks. - (Another Scott) - (9) - May 2, 2007, 10:32:32 AM EDT
                 If you only saw half you missed the best parts. :-) - (admin) - (8) - May 2, 2007, 10:46:40 AM EDT
                     What was at the end? - (drewk) - (1) - May 3, 2007, 08:38:43 PM EDT
                         He built an actual application with each. - (admin) - May 3, 2007, 10:54:58 PM EDT
                     Re: If you only saw half you missed the best parts. :-) - (ubernostrum) - (5) - May 5, 2007, 01:02:04 AM EDT
                         Django newforms... - (admin) - (4) - May 5, 2007, 07:56:15 AM EDT
                             Re: Django newforms... - (ubernostrum) - (3) - May 5, 2007, 09:21:19 PM EDT
                                 Good deal. - (admin) - (2) - May 5, 2007, 09:44:53 PM EDT
                                     Yeah. - (ubernostrum) - (1) - May 6, 2007, 12:02:54 AM EDT
                                         I don't use the admin stuff - (admin) - May 6, 2007, 09:21:18 AM EDT
         He needed to investigate integration - (warmachine) - (2) - May 2, 2007, 06:50:33 AM EDT
             Depends on what you're doing - (admin) - (1) - May 2, 2007, 08:50:56 AM EDT
                 I have back-ends - (warmachine) - May 2, 2007, 10:45:16 AM EDT

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