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New Well, the torsion bar...
being disconnected would have just cause the one side to go down to the "bumper stops".

Just like the old Valiants used to do. Mmmm, interesting corollary there, donchyathunk?

And you are STILL going to drive it to New Jersey, where it is daytime all the time due to the "natural" glow from all the super-sites.
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New It was more than that.
I might have the term wrong... at any rate it was a piece that would cause the nose end to go diving down into the concrete and the car to veer wildly out of control.
Regards,

-scott anderson

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New That sounds more like an A-arm . . .
. . but those critters are usually attached extremely securely, because if one of those lets loose the nose end will dive into the concrete and the car will veer wildly out of control.
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New And.. and the Question is - -
H. T. F. do you get something like that Coming Loose! on a 'modern' vehicle? allegedly built where they have discovered 'torque wrenches' (and lock-washers (usually, bent-over lock-tabs.))

Sheesh.. YPTB


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New rubber wears loose, the pounding shakes it apart.
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New Then they don't have the bump-stops properly
spec'd and manufactured. Design defect and should be recalled immediately.

I am sorry, but any suspension component that is a "spring" in literally *ANY* stock "Murican" automobile has a feature that when the spring bustifies... the suspension is still sound but is severely wonky as far as stance.

This should include torsion bar suspension in the old Valiants and should your A8, since it has to abide by US regulations in regard to basic safety. ANY spring can self-destruct and therefore the regulations exist to keep these things from making the vehicle's axle, etc from failing to do the basic work, though badly compromised on "quality" of work.

Now, if indeed, a failing ball-joint has been ignored, it would have had Severe Problems with steering drifting, sudden (drastic) shifts in direction when driving over things like Rail Road tracks and many sounds when driving at slow speed. This ball-joint failure would have caused a nosed dive into the concrete. Though, I doubt your persnickety senses would not have missed the horrible tracking the steering would have done.

So, in summary, the US has regulations regarding spring that all stock vehicles must adhere to when sold in the US from Dealerships locate inside the US. It is true that while your car would have looked like a "pimped out" A8 with hydraulics, it would have still been drivable if the Torsion bar spring had sheared or "let go". Unless the Ball Joint (or both) had failed, to which the suspension has been completely compromised, you would have been able to safely, but uncomfortably, drive to your $100/hr Audi Service Center.

Yes, this rant about "scaring" people into authorizing work to be done is a common trait in "higher end" vehicle manufacturer, but also has been seen across the board. Its a pet peeve of mine, though I guess I have a lot of Pet Peeves.

Including this sequence of hex numbers:
Zero 9 Eff 9 One 1 Zero 2 Nine D Seven 4 Eee 3 Five B Dee 8 Four 1 Five 6 Cee 5 Six 3 Five 6 Eight 8 Cee 0
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New Moot discussion now, sorry. :-)
And it definitely needed replacing. Loud clankings and such are typically indicative of badness, not joyness. :-)

These guys don't use scare tactics to get work... I had them look at the brakes and was told "they're fine, you won't need to do anything for another 15K miles at least". Brakes would have been a perfect opportunity to get mo' money from me.
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-scott anderson

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New Ehh, ranting. Its what I do.
And see my other post on the other message.
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                         He is Tillaay! Destroyer of Vehicles! ;-) -NT - (n3jja)
                         Well, the torsion bar... - (folkert) - (7)
                             It was more than that. - (admin) - (6)
                                 That sounds more like an A-arm . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (2)
                                     And.. and the Question is - - - (Ashton) - (1)
                                         rubber wears loose, the pounding shakes it apart. -NT - (boxley)
                                 Then they don't have the bump-stops properly - (folkert) - (2)
                                     Moot discussion now, sorry. :-) - (admin) - (1)
                                         Ehh, ranting. Its what I do. - (folkert)
                         You sure it's a torsion bar? - (Another Scott) - (1)
                             Thrust arm, sorry. -NT - (admin)
                         I don't think the A8 has torsion suspension. - (CRConrad)
                         My bad; faulty memory. - (admin) - (16)
                             Makes MUCH more sense. - (folkert) - (15)
                                 So, what's a thrust arm in normal terms? - (admin) - (12)
                                     It holds the bitumogeneous spandrels. HTH! -NT - (Another Scott) - (3)
                                         Isnt' that what holds the havershaft to the giggleclamp? -NT - (jake123) - (2)
                                             No, that is the kininomer bearing pin, giggleclamps require - (folkert) - (1)
                                                 Now just quit that out, the lot of you! - (jb4)
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                                         Something like this? - (admin) - (6)
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