Post #283,091
4/25/07 8:15:27 PM
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Grumblemutter crappy MP3 players
Does anyone know of a Linux MP3 player that can actually buffer the next song and play it without an annoying-ass gap, unlike Rhythmbox or XMMS?
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Post #283,111
4/25/07 10:00:19 PM
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itunes /me flees!
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Post #283,128
4/25/07 11:23:14 PM
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That's what I use on my Mac.
Speaking of annoying ass-gaps. Sheesh... ;-)
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Post #283,122
4/25/07 10:35:56 PM
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You mean...
Does anyone know of a Linux MP3 player that can actually buffer the next song and play it without an annoying-ass gap, unlike Rhythmbox or XMMS? Annoying ass-gap? How do you mean? Why not use a daemon and stream it, like mpd or something like that? MPD has many good things including local streaming.
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Post #283,127
4/25/07 11:22:55 PM
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Re: You mean...
Take an album like Shpongle's "Nothing Lasts... But Nothing Is Lost" and play the CD. The songs blend seamlessly from one to the other, with no gaps. You can't even tell where the songs end without watching the indicator.
Do this in XMMS, and you get an audible discontinuity between songs. Rhythmbox is even worse; there's at least half a second.
I don't know anything about MPD. Does it have playlists and such like an MP3 player?
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Post #283,129
4/25/07 11:36:40 PM
4/25/07 11:51:01 PM
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It does have playlists and junk, but I am not sure...
about the ass-gap stuff.
[link|http://www.musicpd.org/|http://www.musicpd.org/]
It is Debian installable, stable has: 0.12.1-1.1 for amd64 and i386
0.12.2-2 is in unstable.
There is a whole lotta stuff. Of course, YMMV.
OMG, there is a a WHOLE LOTTA stuff. The wiki on [link|http://mpd.wikia.com/wiki/Clients|http://mpd.wikia.com/wiki/Clients]
ummm yeah... wow.
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Edited by folkert
April 25, 2007, 11:51:01 PM EDT
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Post #283,163
4/26/07 9:43:03 AM
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Re: It does have playlists and junk, but I am not sure...
Cool, I'll check it out and report back on the ass-gappiness (or hopefully, lack thereof).
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Post #283,168
4/26/07 10:20:29 AM
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Still no joy.
mpd + gimmix (nice client)
I still get a slight discontinuity between songs. Putting in a 1-second crossfade helps erase the jarring, but now the songs get slightly smeared together. Better, but not by much. :-P
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Post #283,169
4/26/07 10:25:40 AM
4/26/07 10:27:01 AM
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apt-get install xmms-crossfade
then select that as your output plugin..configure to your liking and move on.
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Edited by bepatient
April 26, 2007, 10:27:01 AM EDT
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Post #283,173
4/26/07 10:40:56 AM
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Crossfading is satan's plaything.
Can you configure it to xfade no seconds? That should result in no gap.
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Post #283,177
4/26/07 11:28:47 AM
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Not that simple...
At least not with MP3s. Because of the encode/decode and the frame-length requirements, MP3s are hard to degap without extra information from the encoder (iTunes and LAME both add this information, in different proprietary ways).
xmms-crossfade cheats by buffering up the next song and figuring out the gap by first principles, apparently.
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Post #283,209
4/26/07 9:37:12 PM
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I think you've found the underlying problem.
That is, MP3 doesn't de-gap easily without help from the encoder. :-)
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Post #283,176
4/26/07 11:26:53 AM
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Larf... I *just* found that on my own.
And gapkiller does what it claims to. Noice.
The only annoyance is a few seconds buffering (as in, the song continues playing a few seconds after hitting stop, or next track, and so on) but that's better than the gaps.
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-scott anderson
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