Post #280,905
4/7/07 3:02:21 PM
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Paul Graham: Microsoft is Dead.
[link|http://www.paulgraham.com/microsoft.html|Microsoft is Dead]. (Found via a comment on Mini-Microsoft.)
I'm not sure I agree with all his reasoning, but he makes a decent (if anecdotal) case. Some of their degree of deadness depends on things like their present [link|http://computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&taxonomyName=security&articleId=9015778&taxonomyId=17&intsrc=kc_top|battle with the EU].
Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #280,908
4/7/07 4:31:31 PM
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It is not dead yet
Microsoft is not dead yet. But I'll agree it is weakening and with Vista looks like a company flailing around a once strong product in a desperate attempt to maintain their position.
As for why Microsoft is declining? I think the real reason is that the company has failed at the task of evolving into a big corporate power. Their core projects are all turning into huge programmer death marches, where most of the effort is spent simply trying to keep the process going and keep up with the bugs the other programmers have created. This causes the teams to need to hire more programmers to get anything done, and creates a spiral of more and more effort being spent to produce less and less.
Jay
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Post #280,911
4/7/07 4:44:13 PM
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Yeah, they are
But you have to define "dead" carefully in order to make that statement true.
Graham does that in that essay.
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Post #280,910
4/7/07 4:38:52 PM
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Clearly he lives in a different world . . .
. . if he sees only Apples - so I question the reality of his conclusions. I have about 100 clients active within any one year, and in the last 5 years I have seen among them exactly one Apple computer - a dual boot notebook purchased for a company officer's kid to take to college.
I even have less Linux out there than I used to, as my clients' software providers force them from file servers to database servers running SQL Server. As for Web apps, the only one any of my clients are using is Web mail.
I do agree no way is Microsoft going to change their ways as he suggests. They really wanted to freeze the computing world where was a few years back and they expected to have that done by now - but that pooch got screwed.
Microsoft's major problem is they continue on as if they had the freeze - so for the long haul I expect this guy is right - but he's stating it as "now" and I don't think that is accurate. Doomed Microsoft may be, but dead they are not.
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Post #280,932
4/7/07 8:43:13 PM
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Post #280,933
4/7/07 8:49:03 PM
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Post #280,939
4/7/07 10:13:33 PM
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Re: Paul Graham: Microsoft is Dead.
Google is the 'big man'
Wait until reality hits their stock price
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Post #280,951
4/7/07 11:09:55 PM
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Stock price isn't the issue.
Stock markets are secondary markets. If Google's stock dropped by 3/4 Tuesday afternoon it would have little effect on the company's operations, though it would affect their ability to raise additional money in the future.
Of course Google's executives and other investors would be in personal pain. Look at Red Hat, which dropped from almost $150 to $3 in well under a year and they're still around ($22 on Friday).
But contrast Google to Red Hat. Red hat started at around $45 and was up to almost $150 in a few months, then started the slide to $3. Google started at about $100 and climbed at a modest rate to around $500 and then stabilized in a range between $450 and $500.
Red Hat was a perfect example of an IPO with plenty of hype but no viable business plan to achieve profitability. They spiked very early and dropped fast - until they got their act together and showed some profitibility.
Google's stock price is a good example of an IPO for a company with a real plan, profitability, and the probability of plenty more profit. Don't expect them to drop too far unless the general economy goes to hell.
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Post #280,981
4/8/07 8:23:43 AM
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Re: Stock price isn't the issue.
Google sells advertising
They have big plans in other areas
without the momentum from being incredibly valuable their plans will
suffer
then they are just ad sellers
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Post #280,986
4/8/07 10:00:27 AM
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microsoft is abc/cbs/nbc
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Post #281,037
4/9/07 9:18:19 AM
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abc/cbs/nbc
all sell advertising
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Post #280,941
4/7/07 10:20:29 PM
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The guy is in an insular Web 2.0 bubble
and world of computing is about so much more.
For large parts, the non-MS future is Linux, not Apple.
--Tony
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Post #280,952
4/7/07 11:21:50 PM
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Yup, insular.
Mac users tend to clump together and be rather unaware of the larger world as they worship Steve Jobs - ignoring both his and Apple's many failures.
A funny - maybe 6 years ago I was having lunch in a Thai restaurant. A group of about 8 guys walked in, all dressed "casual chic". I noticed a rather odd uniformity of style and personal appearance and said to myself, "Mac users". Sure enough, they sat down at a nearby table and immediately started talking about Macs - for the whole lunch.
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Post #282,113
4/17/07 10:04:51 AM
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But Apple is the real Vista upgrade.
I'm starting A & P school in the Fall (Spring '08 if the new building doesn't get its FAA approvals by August) so I don't have much in the way of interest in what happens to computers. Whenever anyone asks me if they should upgrade to Vista I always tell them, "If you have a need for the things Vista provides, buy an Apple and you'll be much happier."
bcnu,
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Post #281,045
4/9/07 11:18:59 AM
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Re: Paul Graham: Microsoft is Dead.
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