Post #279,453
3/24/07 11:23:46 PM
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I guess everyone has enough money and too little time
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Post #279,454
3/24/07 11:37:17 PM
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Don't care for ruby, actually.
Mostly hype, IMO, especially Rails.
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-scott anderson
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Post #279,456
3/24/07 11:46:03 PM
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Rails is OK
but compare to Seaside it just seems so last-century.
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Post #279,457
3/24/07 11:49:48 PM
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Uh, yeah.
Actually, it has a few real problems as opposed to just not being fashionable.
No Unicode, for one thing. And Rails strikes me as yet another "get the simple stuff done whiz bango, but fall apart for hard stuff" framework.
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-scott anderson
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Post #279,464
3/25/07 2:33:56 AM
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I didn't mean fashionable
I meant, unwieldy. I like working on live systems. Live, as in running while I work on it. Live, as in, faults trigger debuggers, archive the execution state such that I can restore the entire program to examine it, and then keep going. Rails is a dead system. You have to kill the program to change it. How quaint.
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Post #279,496
3/25/07 12:55:37 PM
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Fashionable == !quaint
You're the one using the words that way, not me. :-)
I've never been one to use debuggers, and a live system isn't worth the hassle of repository-based development. When I do Django development I never have to restart the program either. To each his own.
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-scott anderson
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Post #279,502
3/25/07 1:17:43 PM
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I code in the debugger
then execute it, write, step, write, step....
Guarantee's a high level of quality. If I write a line wrong, I just back up the PC to the outer context, change the line, and test it. I recently had to fix a Java web service and felt absolutely crippled because I couldn't write a couple lines for the wacky string manipulation I was about to do - just to make sure I had it right.
This is the way computers should work.
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Post #279,530
3/25/07 8:14:22 PM
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I prefer to use unit tests to guarantee quality
They're repeatable and useful for regression testing. I don't have to worry about side effects, either.
As far as immediate Java testing, that's what the Bean Shell is for. Or use the remote debugger if you want. Either way.
Again, different strokes.
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-scott anderson
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Post #279,568
3/26/07 2:04:26 AM
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I do both
Cool thing about SUnit is you click on failed test - brings it up in a debugger - step, analyze, and fix.
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Post #279,458
3/25/07 12:18:48 AM
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ROFL - Don't know Ruby.
Imric's Tips for Living
- Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
- Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
- Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
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Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
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Post #279,459
3/25/07 12:53:43 AM
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Nope -just you specified How the problem needed to be solved
I assume you've been learning Ruby, setting something up, so you wanted something to mesh with what you've already done. Maybe to be used as an example for your further education.
So you really don't want an operational solution, you want something to satisfy your curiosity.
I could envision the solution in a couple of hours of Perl, which means I wouldn't mind picking up the cash for it, but you don't want that.
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Post #279,463
3/25/07 2:29:40 AM
3/25/07 4:35:15 AM
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If I wanted to take lip from a script kiddie
I'd have offered a quart of Mickeys and an iPod.
If I wanted to satisfy my curiosity, I'd pick up a book and hack it out in a day. I don't happen to have the day. For me, a day is worth a kilobuck.
You, a one trick hack pushing dead tree spam, pretending you know anything at all about me and what I want or need is presumptuous.
Its a job son. If you want my nickel, you play my tune. But pseudo psycho analysis from an emotional pygmy is neither expected nor appreciated.
Sod off.
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Post #279,495
3/25/07 12:45:52 PM
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My, this is a long yesterday
Wasn't that when you needed it by?
This statement is what I based my assumptions on:
I'm annoyed at ruby's file IO - can't get it working, and I"m short on time
It's seems pretty clear cut, but then again, I DID say "I assume". Which means I can accept being wrong.
And then you decided to attack me. Wierd. So I'll make another assumption.
You REALLY don't like me.
That's OK. I don't mind you. You are interesting, and occasionally entertaining. And often educational.
Of course, that above statement will probably make you start seething, and kick back something about not needing my approval. So I'll beat you to it.
Happy?
Hope you get the solution you need.
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Post #279,476
3/25/07 9:07:49 AM
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There are three other options.
c) I don't know Ruby.
d) I don't have time to do it, nor to learn Ruby to do it.
e) I didn't see your thread until just now.
Otherwise, I might have given it a go.
Wade.
Is it enough to love
Is it enough to breathe
Somebody rip my heart out
And leave me here to bleed
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Is it enough to die
Somebody save my life
I'd rather be Anything but Ordinary
Please
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