Simple.

I wouldn't be surprised if she [link|http://archive.salon.com/mwt/feature/2001/10/02/fatima/index1.html|couldn't talk to you]:

Have you ever been personally attacked by the Taliban?

I was flogged three times in the streets, for stupid reasons. They will flog women that don't have the veil on, or aren't with their male relative, or are talking to a male shopkeeper, or are out on the streets during the evening. There are always people sobbing in the streets because they are being beaten. This is normal.

For far too many, the veil and the burqa aren't just pieces of clothing they wear by choice. They're required uniforms that have the purpose of subjugating women. They're used to control people just as the [link|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_badge|yellow badge] was.

[link|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atat%C3%BCrk%27s_Reforms|Mustafa Kemal Atat\ufffdrk] had it about right when it comes to [link|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La%C3%AFcit%C3%A9|la\ufffdcit\ufffd] in Turkey. Displays of religious trappings belong in private or in religious institutions.

My $0.02.

Cheers,
Scott.

Post #275,135 by ubernostrum 12/8/06 2:20:32 AM Reply	Simple. Ask her why she's wearing it. If she suddenly gets a fearful I-can't-accuse-my-husband look (visible through the handy eye slit), arrest every blood relative you can find and put her in witness protection to prevent stragglers from killing her to regain the family honor. The punishment for inflicting such a situation on a woman will, ideally, be such that a second offense is not possible. --\r\nYou cooin' with my bird?
Post #275,145 by Another Scott 12/8/06 7:03:25 AM Reply	Except... I wouldn't be surprised if she [link\|http://archive.salon.com/mwt/feature/2001/10/02/fatima/index1.html\|couldn't talk to you]: Have you ever been personally attacked by the Taliban? I was flogged three times in the streets, for stupid reasons. They will flog women that don't have the veil on, or aren't with their male relative, or are talking to a male shopkeeper, or are out on the streets during the evening. There are always people sobbing in the streets because they are being beaten. This is normal. For far too many, the veil and the burqa aren't just pieces of clothing they wear by choice. They're required uniforms that have the purpose of subjugating women. They're used to control people just as the [link\|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_badge\|yellow badge] was. [link\|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atat%C3%BCrk%27s_Reforms\|Mustafa Kemal Atat\ufffdrk] had it about right when it comes to [link\|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La%C3%AFcit%C3%A9\|la\ufffdcit\ufffd] in Turkey. Displays of religious trappings belong in private or in religious institutions. My $0.02. Cheers, Scott.
Post #275,166 by ubernostrum 12/8/06 12:36:56 PM Reply	This is why we have bombs and missiles and such. --\r\nYou cooin' with my bird?

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