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New Ever heard of PAE?
It has been a part of Intel 32-bit for a LONG time.
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New I'd call that exotic technology



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New No, it is bone stock on everything since the P3 from Intel
The most support Chipset supports PAE, except most MB manufacturers didn't enable it.
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New And AMD? PowerPC? ARM?
>most MB manufacturers didn't enable it.

So it would be a bad idea to count on it I think.

There's a lot more reasons I'd discount this solution. For one - the problem says a 32 bit machine. It doesn't say a 32 bit Intel machine. It doesn't say a 36 bit machine - which is essentially what PAE gives you if its enabled. It says - a vanilla 32 bit machine.

I'm not saying PAE is bad. I'm not saying it isn't widely available. I'm saying it is outside of the problem definition.



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New You said COMMON 32-bit
Power,ARM even AMD are also outside the problems definition.


Edit:
Excuse me, "garden variety 32 bit"

Garden Variety... Doesn't mean exotics like Power, ARM, MIPS, MIPS-EL, SH, s390 or even AMD.
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Expand Edited by folkert Nov. 27, 2006, 02:35:31 PM EST
New That kind of weasel won't get you a job
And I said 'garden variety'



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Expand Edited by tuberculosis Nov. 27, 2006, 02:35:03 PM EST
New This line of questioning wouldn't get you a candidate for
the job in the first place. You knocked out many worth while one even before you stop to consider you rant.
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New Whoa
The key issue was guiding you toward a reasonable doable solution, at least to get you thinking along those lines. But since you really don't have the programming background, you attempted a brute force response (which is typical for non-programmers) and then got upset when he refocused.

There is absolutely NO WAY your anticipated solution would have been workable, even with all the memory available in PAE. Didn't matter. So he pointed you back to the simple original requirements.

But rather than take the direction, you got silly.
New No he got downright rude.
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New I'm not trying to be rude
I'm trying to help you. When I say PAE is out of bounds - accept it and try a new avenue. Don't spend time defending it as a choice.

Your interviewer has specific things he wants to see.

This is no different than asking you to reverse a string, watching you allocate space for a new one, and then me refocusing to say "OK - but the string is ginormous and there is no more memory available - now what will you do". Because I want to see the in-place solution.

You said you want to be a programmer. I'm happy to help you achieve that and coach you through what passes as interviewing these days. The really-hard-puzzle-solve-this-on-the-spot interview is very popular now.




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     Steve Yegge (who he? - ed) on Perl - (pwhysall) - (62)
         IRLRPD. (new thread) - (Another Scott)
         He worked for Amazon for many years - (tuberculosis) - (60)
             Well based on that ... - (folkert) - (59)
                 Key factors are - (tuberculosis) - (58)
                     do it all the time - (boxley)
                     I have never had an under spec'd system. - (folkert) - (56)
                         More to the point is will it fit on one machine? - (tuberculosis) - (55)
                             I guess I think to simply. - (folkert) - (22)
                                 You would filewalk for every query? - (crazy) - (18)
                                     RAMFS? -NT - (folkert) - (17)
                                         Doesn't matter - (crazy) - (5)
                                             That would be a radix-search, I think. - (static) - (3)
                                                 Nah, you want a hash - (tuberculosis) - (2)
                                                     I thought a radix search was also O(1). - (static) - (1)
                                                         Gah - my bad - (tuberculosis)
                                             Also, I just thought about your file size - (crazy)
                                         On a 32 bit machine? -NT - (tuberculosis) - (10)
                                             Ever heard of PAE? - (folkert) - (9)
                                                 I'd call that exotic technology -NT - (tuberculosis) - (8)
                                                     No, it is bone stock on everything since the P3 from Intel - (folkert) - (7)
                                                         And AMD? PowerPC? ARM? - (tuberculosis) - (6)
                                                             You said COMMON 32-bit - (folkert) - (5)
                                                                 That kind of weasel won't get you a job - (tuberculosis) - (4)
                                                                     This line of questioning wouldn't get you a candidate for - (folkert) - (3)
                                                                         Whoa - (crazy) - (2)
                                                                             No he got downright rude. -NT - (folkert) - (1)
                                                                                 I'm not trying to be rude - (tuberculosis)
                                 Where did you get 1G? - (tuberculosis) - (2)
                                     Not all 9 digit numbers are valid. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                         I assumed so - (tuberculosis)
                             something you forgot, what lawyer to hire - (boxley) - (1)
                                 Nah - (crazy)
                             We talked about this one before - (admin) - (6)
                                 We did - he didn't - (tuberculosis) - (5)
                                     Just saying... - (admin) - (4)
                                         But we hardly talk about programming at all anymore - (tuberculosis) - (3)
                                             :-) - (Another Scott) - (2)
                                                 I agree on the eyeballs. - (static)
                                                 I put most of my programming rants on my blog - (tuberculosis)
                             non programmer answer, append a 0,1 or2 - (boxley) - (15)
                                 PICK?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? - (crazy) - (5)
                                     dont knock it until you have tried it, recently -NT - (boxley) - (4)
                                         I've spent the last 20 years systematically killing it - (crazy) - (3)
                                             again, see what the needs are and then ask what the solution - (boxley) - (2)
                                                 One trick pony - (crazy) - (1)
                                                     If that is the trick you need use it -NT - (boxley)
                                 The key is to stay off the disk - (tuberculosis) - (8)
                                     CramFS in RAM. -NT - (folkert) - (6)
                                         That's not a solution either - (tuberculosis) - (5)
                                             Okay, at this point... - (folkert) - (4)
                                                 Sure - just want to give you a taste - (tuberculosis) - (3)
                                                     personally I hate programming, I like debugging - (boxley)
                                                     Cheaper at Bookpool, btw. - (admin)
                                                     ICLRPD - (drewk)
                                     Math isnt my strong suit but - (boxley)
                             I hope you're going to outline the solution. :-) - (Another Scott) - (3)
                                 Admin did it very nicely. - (crazy) - (1)
                                     D'Oh! Thanks. -NT - (Another Scott)
                                 Cool sort paper - (crazy)
                             Taking a stab - (ChrisR) - (2)
                                 Still doesn't beat O(1) :-) -NT - (admin) - (1)
                                     Ok, I read the answer you gave... - (ChrisR)

Sir, my point must have hit home, because your ego is leaking badly.
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