Funny how things that aren't related are related

Post #271,669 by drewk 10/31/06 12:40:44 AM 10/31/06 12:41:59 AM Reply	Funny how things that aren't related are related My appreciation for music has followed the same arc as my appreciation for software. I used to do a lot of it -- playing the music, writing the code. I was pretty good. I recognized and respected good craftsmanship. Now watching that video made me realize I'm at the same point with music that I already recognized with code over a year ago: I'm just not impressed by simple craftsmanship any more. Oh sure, I think you need really good craftsman to get a good result, but it's something I think anyone with some aptitude and determination can learn. But creating something genuinely new, now that's special. And you don't even need to be a great craftsman to do it. Jimi Hendrix could never play what those two guys did. But in 30 years, do you think anyone will remember them? === Kip Hawley is still an idiot. === Purveyor of Doc Hope's [link\|http://DocHope.com\|fresh-baked dog biscuits and pet treats]. [link\|http://DocHope.com\|http://DocHope.com] Edited by drewk Oct. 31, 2006, 12:41:59 AM EST Expand All History
Post #271,699 by pwhysall 10/31/06 11:33:17 AM Reply	I don't actually think Hendrix's stuff was all that new Electric blues with knobs on, for the most part. My experience of Hendrix is that more people talk about his genius than actually listen to his music. For something that didn't resemble anything that came before, you have to look at Kraftwerk. Peter [link\|http://www.no2id.net/\|Don't Let The Terrorists Win] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes! [link\|http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?pwhysall\|A better terminal emulator]
Post #271,704 by admin 10/31/06 12:08:48 PM Reply	Boing! Boom, tschak! Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #271,743 by bepatient 10/31/06 9:58:19 PM Reply	Then you aren't listening. Hendrix and the Experience redefined rock and roll. Sure, it started as amped up blues. It quickly moved to something else entirely. And Kraftwerk redefined music 10 years later with the introduction of electronics in full replacement of instruments. Too much of today's music is fashionable crap dressed as artistry._{Adrian Belew}
Post #271,866 by pwhysall 11/2/06 10:02:24 AM Reply	You make my point. Hendrix modified (a bit, and somewhat less than Pink Floyd, I submit) something that already existed. On the scale of "fuck me, that's new" he was somewhat below Teh Floyd and Teh Sabbath And nowhere near Teh Werk Du Kraft. Peter [link\|http://www.no2id.net/\|Don't Let The Terrorists Win] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes! [link\|http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?pwhysall\|A better terminal emulator]
Post #271,871 by bepatient 11/2/06 10:41:35 AM Reply	No, I didn't. His early work in the UK was blues. Clean guitar sound, amazing ability. When he flipped the dials to 11, hit the recording studio and began "the Experience" it was no longer blues, no longer the "british invasion", it was new, it was undeniable and it made the further migration of hard rock (Purple, Sabbath) acceptable. He turned the guitar into the driver of a bands sound instead of the jangly back up instrument to bass and drums. You can hear the differences in approach pre and post Hendrix in dozens of bands and guitarists. Clapton, Pete Townsend, Jimmy Page, all show marked changes in their style and approach PH (post hendrix). He changed everything. Including what was considered Blues. Floyd and the psychedelic were part of that, and Hendrix drew from that genre...but their impact later was influenced by Hendrix...and David Gilmore will tell you as much. Too much of today's music is fashionable crap dressed as artistry._{Adrian Belew}

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