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New NYT begins to come clean on SWIFT falsehoods
[link|http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/22/opinion/22pubed.html?_r=3&pagewanted=2&n=Top%2fOpinion%2fThe%20Public%20Editor|Still a lot of explaining to do]

Excerpt:

Those two factors are really what bring me to this corrective commentary: the apparent legality of the program in the United States, and the absence of any evidence that anyone's private data had actually been misused. I had mentioned both as being part of 'the most substantial argument against running the story,' but that reference was relegated to the bottom of my column.

The source of the data, as my column noted, was the Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication, or Swift. That Belgium-based consortium said it had honored administrative subpoenas from the American government because it has a subsidiary in this country.

I haven't found any evidence in the intervening months that the surveillance program was illegal under United States laws. Although data-protection authorities in Europe have complained that the formerly secret program violated their rules on privacy, there have been no Times reports of legal action being taken. Data-protection rules are often stricter in Europe than in America, and have been a frequent source of friction.

Also, there still haven't been any abuses of private data linked to the program, which apparently has continued to function. That, plus the legality issue, has left me wondering what harm actually was avoided when The Times and two other newspapers disclosed the program. The lack of appropriate oversight - to catch any abuses in the absence of media attention - was a key reason I originally supported publication. I think, however, that I gave it too much weight.

In addition, I became embarrassed by the how-secret-is-it issue, although that isn't a cause of my altered conclusion. My original support for the article rested heavily on the fact that so many people already knew about the program that serious terrorists also must have been aware of it. But critical, and clever, readers were quick to point to a contradiction: the Times article and headline had both emphasized that a 'secret' program was being exposed. (If one sentence down in the article had acknowledged that a number of people were probably aware of the program, both the newsroom and I would have been better able to address that wave of criticism.)

What kept me from seeing these matters more clearly earlier in what admittedly was a close call? I fear I allowed the vicious criticism of The Times by the Bush administration to trigger my instinctive affinity for the underdog and enduring faith in a free press - two traits that I warned readers about in my first column.

I say:

No, Mr. Calame, it wasn't Bush's fault. It was yours. And it was *not* a close call. Everyone directly involved in this is exposed to treason charges. You all knew what you were doing, and you just didn't care.

This is far too little, and too late.

Affinity for the underdog, you say? What underdog is that? Just who was harmed by this program? Just who was helped by you defeating its purpose?

I'd suggest you grow up, and start taking responsibility for your own actions, but it's way too late for that. Instead, I suggest you leave for a country that has no extradition treaty.


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[link|http://fnmarlowe.blogspot.com/2006/10/nyt-begins-to-come-clean-on-swift.html|Comment at blogger.com]

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New Leave? Rather than stay in one without habeas corpus?
So the governments snooping was legal under US law? Sheesh... that doesn't narrow the field much, now, does it? Under our current rule, the government is allowed to do anything it wants to in the name of national security. That kind of snooping is not legal in most countries.
Most countries are not as authoritarian as the US.
We are busy turning into everything we used to decry in the commie dictatorships. Authoritarian government. Decisions for all made by a priviliged few. Muzzled media. Great divide between the rulers and the ruled. As our fearless chimp-in-chief would say, "Heck of a job."
Running a newspaper isn't treason. Yet. We have another 2 years of this crap though. We'll see.
New real close to "day of the rope"
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New Treason This! and Treason That!
I remember in the days of yesteryear where being conservative actually meant that one distrusted government. These days, being conservative means promoting war, secrecy, and throwing accusations of treason around like it was halloween candy.
New Candy corn. Blech.
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     NYT begins to come clean on SWIFT falsehoods - (marlowe) - (4)
         Leave? Rather than stay in one without habeas corpus? - (hnick)
         real close to "day of the rope" -NT - (boxley)
         Treason This! and Treason That! - (ChrisR) - (1)
             Candy corn. Blech. -NT - (bepatient)

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