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New Camera recommendation please
SLR
Film
A little automation as possible.

For the boy.
New Check out B&H Photo.
They have a used department which would probably be ideal.

[link|http://www.bhphotovideo.com|http://www.bhphotovideo.com]

I had a Nikon FG-20 that was good for learning with. They don't have that listed, but they do have several Nikon bodies for < $100, including a couple of manual focus Nikkormats.

I'd probably look at Nikon or Canon as they have a huge variety of lenses, etc.

HTH a bit.

Cheers,
Scott.
New Thanks
New Have had my Canon EOS Rebel for ~13 years.
Takes damn-fine pictures. They look great. Automatic or Manual focus; user-choice on the lens. All other EOS lenses will fit into it, and there are a bunch of lenses to go around for it.

Problem with it: I never ever ever take it anywhere. Last time it came out of the closet was BeepBash '05. (Only reason I brought it there was because I thought that the last picture taken on the roll of film in the camera was of me-n-Peter in his house from Dec. '02. After getting the roll of film developed, I found out I was incorrect...But that's beside the point.)

If you *need* a film camera, you could do alot worse than an EOS.

If you don't *NEED* a film camera, I would recommend a digital...But that's specifically not your request, so I won't go into it.
-YendorMike

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
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New NEED film
The boy spends a LOT of time in the darkroom.
New Here's the EOS page
[link|http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ProductCatIndexAct&fcategoryid=111|http://www.usa.canon...t&fcategoryid=111]

What's the difference between the K2 and the T2?
New Other than the K2 is "comaptible"

[link|http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelDetailAct&fcategoryid=138&modelid=9429|http://www.usa.canon...=138&modelid=9429]

Comaptible Many EOS System Accessories \t
New A couple of reviews.
[link|http://www.popphoto.com/camera_review/canon-eos_rebel_t2.html|T2 Review], [link|http://www.popphoto.com/camera_review/canon-eos_rebel_k2.html|K2 Review].

The T2 has faster shutter speeds, more exposures per second, is a year newer, and looks a little different. Otherwise, they seem similar, but you probably want to check a camera site to see how they really compare. Superficially, in my checks it seems like [link|http://www.photographyreview.com/sf-1/befid-442/pid-28359579/productreviewscrx.aspx|people like the T2].

Cheers,
Scott.
New Sounds like a second hand Nikon FM2 would be ideal.
You need to rummage in the pawn shops et al. The advantage of a Nikon or a Canon is that there are squillions of second-hand lenses out there. And something like the FM2 is strong and robust so it will take knocks and drops and just keep on working.

Wade.
"Don't give up!"
New Nikon F3
[link|http://cgi.ebay.com/NIKON-HP-F3-CAMERA-W-SPEEDLIGHT-SB-12-FLASH-35MM-SLR_W0QQitemZ150047507728QQihZ005QQcategoryZ107925QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem|http://cgi.ebay.com/...dZ1QQcmdZViewItem]

I used these for work. Very solid, huge array of lenses available.
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New Something to watch for WRT lens controls.
All the Nikon lenses I have seen turn the same way to go from wide to tele-zoom. My sister's old Ricoh lens turns the same way. All the Canon lenses I've seen turn the *other* way. It's a small thing, but keen photographers can get upset over less.

Wade.
"Don't give up!"
New If (low) $$ be an object -
Years ago I obtained on a fluke, a Canon AL-1 (friend at a garage sale spotted the dusty jewel and bought it for something ridiculous - $15?) Many today have little idea of what a 'fine' camera is/was.. I presume that has gotten only worse.

It cleaned up nicely.
Sleuthing, a few e-mails from experts informed me that this has one of the best rangefinders ever.. working well in low light, etc. It became the model for later Canons. A subsequent trip to Canon for a simple battery-door fix resulted in one of those rarities, too: A Corporation head, aware of why many of us value these beautifully designed devices.. went way beyond mere accomodation. (Camera cleaned and, despite my mild protestations - that and repair done for Free.) #1 corp on my non-shitlist.

In brief - if you can yet find a clean one, this model has an excellent focal-plane shutter; speed from 1/15 sec (+ 'B'ulb) on up to 1/1000 sec. I used a light and scope to verify timings == spot-on within a few %. Has also an 'A' automatic position. Forget whether speed/light weighted. The student doesn't want that anyway.

Defy anyone to notice a difference in negative quality VS any Nikon -- that, partly hearsay from folks who know/care more about ultimate details than do I. The 50 mm \ufffd2 lens is also reputed to be well corrected - not so easily done on the faster, monster pieces of glass. (I peddled my Nikon F-2 + lenses long ago - at a profit! such as things go in Yuppie times.)

Haven't scanned eBay, no idea how easily such a model can be run down; as said - luck got it for me. You'd want to check shutter condition on any older focalplane - there are felts which eventually need replacement - as with pianos (!)


Ashton

     Camera recommendation please - (crazy) - (11)
         Check out B&H Photo. - (Another Scott) - (1)
             Thanks -NT - (crazy)
         Have had my Canon EOS Rebel for ~13 years. - (Yendor) - (4)
             NEED film - (crazy)
             Here's the EOS page - (crazy) - (2)
                 Other than the K2 is "comaptible" - (crazy)
                 A couple of reviews. - (Another Scott)
         Sounds like a second hand Nikon FM2 would be ideal. - (static)
         Nikon F3 - (drewk)
         Something to watch for WRT lens controls. - (static)
         If (low) $$ be an object - - (Ashton)

The reaction times on these are really impressive.
64 ms