Post #271,053
10/22/06 7:58:16 PM
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Camera recommendation please
SLR Film A little automation as possible.
For the boy.
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Post #271,054
10/22/06 8:08:15 PM
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Check out B&H Photo.
They have a used department which would probably be ideal.
[link|http://www.bhphotovideo.com|http://www.bhphotovideo.com]
I had a Nikon FG-20 that was good for learning with. They don't have that listed, but they do have several Nikon bodies for < $100, including a couple of manual focus Nikkormats.
I'd probably look at Nikon or Canon as they have a huge variety of lenses, etc.
HTH a bit.
Cheers, Scott.
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Post #271,056
10/22/06 8:11:38 PM
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Thanks
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Post #271,055
10/22/06 8:10:32 PM
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Have had my Canon EOS Rebel for ~13 years.
Takes damn-fine pictures. They look great. Automatic or Manual focus; user-choice on the lens. All other EOS lenses will fit into it, and there are a bunch of lenses to go around for it.
Problem with it: I never ever ever take it anywhere. Last time it came out of the closet was BeepBash '05. (Only reason I brought it there was because I thought that the last picture taken on the roll of film in the camera was of me-n-Peter in his house from Dec. '02. After getting the roll of film developed, I found out I was incorrect...But that's beside the point.)
If you *need* a film camera, you could do alot worse than an EOS.
If you don't *NEED* a film camera, I would recommend a digital...But that's specifically not your request, so I won't go into it.
-YendorMike
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania
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Post #271,058
10/22/06 8:12:21 PM
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NEED film
The boy spends a LOT of time in the darkroom.
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Post #271,059
10/22/06 8:15:22 PM
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Here's the EOS page
[link|http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ProductCatIndexAct&fcategoryid=111|http://www.usa.canon...t&fcategoryid=111]
What's the difference between the K2 and the T2?
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Post #271,060
10/22/06 8:17:40 PM
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Other than the K2 is "comaptible"
[link|http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelDetailAct&fcategoryid=138&modelid=9429|http://www.usa.canon...=138&modelid=9429]
Comaptible Many EOS System Accessories \t
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Post #271,061
10/22/06 8:37:51 PM
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A couple of reviews.
[link|http://www.popphoto.com/camera_review/canon-eos_rebel_t2.html|T2 Review], [link|http://www.popphoto.com/camera_review/canon-eos_rebel_k2.html|K2 Review].
The T2 has faster shutter speeds, more exposures per second, is a year newer, and looks a little different. Otherwise, they seem similar, but you probably want to check a camera site to see how they really compare. Superficially, in my checks it seems like [link|http://www.photographyreview.com/sf-1/befid-442/pid-28359579/productreviewscrx.aspx|people like the T2].
Cheers, Scott.
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Post #271,064
10/22/06 10:54:39 PM
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Sounds like a second hand Nikon FM2 would be ideal.
You need to rummage in the pawn shops et al. The advantage of a Nikon or a Canon is that there are squillions of second-hand lenses out there. And something like the FM2 is strong and robust so it will take knocks and drops and just keep on working.
Wade.
"Don't give up!"
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Post #271,104
10/23/06 8:41:49 PM
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Nikon F3
[link|http://cgi.ebay.com/NIKON-HP-F3-CAMERA-W-SPEEDLIGHT-SB-12-FLASH-35MM-SLR_W0QQitemZ150047507728QQihZ005QQcategoryZ107925QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem|http://cgi.ebay.com/...dZ1QQcmdZViewItem]
I used these for work. Very solid, huge array of lenses available.
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Post #271,107
10/23/06 9:02:54 PM
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Something to watch for WRT lens controls.
All the Nikon lenses I have seen turn the same way to go from wide to tele-zoom. My sister's old Ricoh lens turns the same way. All the Canon lenses I've seen turn the *other* way. It's a small thing, but keen photographers can get upset over less.
Wade.
"Don't give up!"
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Post #271,109
10/23/06 9:56:44 PM
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If (low) $$ be an object -
Years ago I obtained on a fluke, a Canon AL-1 (friend at a garage sale spotted the dusty jewel and bought it for something ridiculous - $15?) Many today have little idea of what a 'fine' camera is/was.. I presume that has gotten only worse.
It cleaned up nicely. Sleuthing, a few e-mails from experts informed me that this has one of the best rangefinders ever.. working well in low light, etc. It became the model for later Canons. A subsequent trip to Canon for a simple battery-door fix resulted in one of those rarities, too: A Corporation head, aware of why many of us value these beautifully designed devices.. went way beyond mere accomodation. (Camera cleaned and, despite my mild protestations - that and repair done for Free.) #1 corp on my non-shitlist.
In brief - if you can yet find a clean one, this model has an excellent focal-plane shutter; speed from 1/15 sec (+ 'B'ulb) on up to 1/1000 sec. I used a light and scope to verify timings == spot-on within a few %. Has also an 'A' automatic position. Forget whether speed/light weighted. The student doesn't want that anyway.
Defy anyone to notice a difference in negative quality VS any Nikon -- that, partly hearsay from folks who know/care more about ultimate details than do I. The 50 mm \ufffd2 lens is also reputed to be well corrected - not so easily done on the faster, monster pieces of glass. (I peddled my Nikon F-2 + lenses long ago - at a profit! such as things go in Yuppie times.)
Haven't scanned eBay, no idea how easily such a model can be run down; as said - luck got it for me. You'd want to check shutter condition on any older focalplane - there are felts which eventually need replacement - as with pianos (!)
Ashton
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