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Post #268,185 by Arkadiy 9/20/06 10:25:07 PM Reply	You mean, the big, regulated oligopolies of the past? Or the big, unregulated, slowly dying mammoths of the present? Last time I flied, it was Jet Blue. Are they getting any money from Govt? ------ 179. I will not outsource core functions. -- [link\|http://omega.med.yale.edu/~pcy5/misc/overlord2.htm\|.]
Post #268,189 by broomberg 9/20/06 10:30:05 PM Reply	Yes [link\|http://hasbrouck.org/blog/archives/001001.html\|http://hasbrouck.org...hives/001001.html]
Post #268,222 by bepatient 9/21/06 10:19:21 AM Reply	Wow, is THAT a skewed diatribe It ignores EVERY instance of taxes and fees charged to airlines that are not charged to other companies (like federal excise) it ignores the PFCs that are regularly plundered by local govt in exchange for the "beneficial tax treatment of construction". Trust me...if it was a huge burden (as opposed to a huge cash cow)...there wouldn't be near as much effort to keep them afloat. Too much of today's music is fashionable crap dressed as artistry._{Adrian Belew}
Post #268,283 by Arkadiy 9/21/06 8:33:02 PM Reply	Shall we compare airlines to trucking? Infrastrucure built by government, safety services provided by same, some proportion of auto mechanics probably got their training in the Army, kids are taught to drive for free at high schools (not commercial license, but still...) Sorry, I don't buy that. I was looking for direct payments, buy-outs and some such. The level of government support you're citing may entitle the taxpayers to demand safe and reliable service on the routes that the airlines do fly. I don't think it entitles the taxpayers to demand that routes be opened where it commercially makes no sense, like mmoffitt is doing. ------ 179. I will not outsource core functions. -- [link\|http://omega.med.yale.edu/~pcy5/misc/overlord2.htm\|.]

Weekly Retail Gasoline and Diesel Prices - (lincoln) - (46) - Sept. 13, 2006, 03:18:30 PM EDT

Oh for the glory years of 2002 - (bepatient) - (45) - Sept. 13, 2006, 03:54:20 PM EDT

How low do you think it'll go? - (mmoffitt) - (44) - Sept. 18, 2006, 11:50:07 AM EDT

We have to have the hellish winter - (bepatient) - (42) - Sept. 18, 2006, 12:01:59 PM EDT

Heh. Which "airlines" are gonna be left to make money? ;0) -NT - (mmoffitt) - (41) - Sept. 18, 2006, 12:06:27 PM EDT

There's the problem - (bepatient) - (40) - Sept. 18, 2006, 12:11:39 PM EDT

Heh again. - (mmoffitt) - (39) - Sept. 18, 2006, 12:36:41 PM EDT

Disagree with 1 carrier - (bepatient) - (35) - Sept. 18, 2006, 12:46:08 PM EDT

Bzzzzzt. Wrong. Thanks for playing. - (mmoffitt) - (34) - Sept. 18, 2006, 02:02:32 PM EDT

In case you missed it - (bepatient) - (33) - Sept. 18, 2006, 02:56:27 PM EDT

I didn't miss it. - (mmoffitt) - (32) - Sept. 18, 2006, 03:13:42 PM EDT

BS - (bepatient) - (29) - Sept. 18, 2006, 03:29:34 PM EDT

Fly direct from there much? - (mmoffitt) - (28) - Sept. 19, 2006, 11:25:13 AM EDT

What are you blathering about? - (bepatient) - (27) - Sept. 19, 2006, 11:39:00 AM EDT

Shareholders == Business Class customers. - (mmoffitt) - (26) - Sept. 19, 2006, 11:52:57 AM EDT

What? - (bepatient) - (25) - Sept. 19, 2006, 05:10:26 PM EDT

What I support is a viable airline industry. - (mmoffitt) - (24) - Sept. 20, 2006, 09:15:16 AM EDT

One nit - (jake123) - (8) - Sept. 20, 2006, 11:00:55 AM EDT

Nit granted. - (mmoffitt) - (7) - Sept. 20, 2006, 03:00:53 PM EDT

But still...you ignore one point - (bepatient) - (6) - Sept. 20, 2006, 03:58:59 PM EDT

No. - (mmoffitt) - (5) - Sept. 22, 2006, 02:23:39 PM EDT

Funny - (bepatient) - Sept. 22, 2006, 03:26:10 PM EDT

They may be on way out.. anyway___hyperbolically related - (Ashton) - (3) - Sept. 22, 2006, 07:26:49 PM EDT

There were some post 9/11/2001 studies on this. - (Another Scott) - (2) - Sept. 22, 2006, 08:18:59 PM EDT

And I was too busy moving to notice -NT - (drewk) - Sept. 22, 2006, 08:46:44 PM EDT

Interesting. Thanks! -NT - (mmoffitt) - Sept. 25, 2006, 03:24:22 PM EDT

"All of us pay to support"? - (Arkadiy) - (14) - Sept. 20, 2006, 10:02:41 PM EDT

Find out how much money the gov gave to airline firms - (jake123) - (12) - Sept. 20, 2006, 10:18:59 PM EDT

You mean, - (Arkadiy) - (3) - Sept. 20, 2006, 10:25:07 PM EDT

Yes - (broomberg) - (2) - Sept. 20, 2006, 10:30:05 PM EDT

Wow, is THAT a skewed diatribe - (bepatient) - Sept. 21, 2006, 10:19:21 AM EDT

Shall we compare airlines to trucking? - (Arkadiy) - Sept. 21, 2006, 08:33:02 PM EDT

This year, none. - (bepatient) - (7) - Sept. 21, 2006, 10:14:47 AM EDT

CLUE: You *have* to include Airport Funding. - (mmoffitt) - (6) - Sept. 22, 2006, 02:02:09 PM EDT

No, I don't. - (bepatient) - Sept. 22, 2006, 03:18:10 PM EDT

Errr... - (Arkadiy) - (4) - Sept. 24, 2006, 08:14:22 PM EDT

Under the AIP, the fed picks up 90%. - (mmoffitt) - (3) - Sept. 25, 2006, 03:18:52 PM EDT

Complete and utter BS - (bepatient) - (2) - Sept. 25, 2006, 04:08:55 PM EDT

How's this, toddler? - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Oct. 6, 2006, 02:39:17 PM EDT

Crawling before you walk - (bepatient) - Oct. 6, 2006, 03:27:15 PM EDT

#268351 -NT - (mmoffitt) - Sept. 22, 2006, 02:03:08 PM EDT

fscked? really? - (SpiceWare) - (1) - Sept. 18, 2006, 06:12:05 PM EDT

Stevens Point - (lincoln) - Sept. 18, 2006, 09:16:55 PM EDT

SATS? -NT - (jbrabeck) - (2) - Sept. 18, 2006, 01:28:20 PM EDT

Small Aircraft Transportation System. - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Sept. 18, 2006, 01:49:39 PM EDT

Thanks -NT - (jbrabeck) - Sept. 18, 2006, 03:36:53 PM EDT

tip of the iceberg - (boxley) - Sept. 18, 2006, 12:14:22 PM EDT

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