I began a complete response to this

And then decided not to bother.

You don't understand the difference between a reason and every reason. You refuse to see that there are reasons to give him any benefit of the doubt. As far as you're concerned, he's an evil person and obviously a complete asshole.

You're unable to even consider the possibility of trying to see the world from the point of view of a person who has spent 15 years paying a substantial sum to a person he's not even allowed to meet! After a few years of this, I would expect that some resentment would set in. After 15 years I have no idea what it would be like.

None of this surprises me. You've always been one of the fastest people around here to judge others, and you seem to always judge harshly. In fact it seems that you've got all of the intolerance that made the German people infamous, only it has gone into being aggressively politically correct. The result is that you're a stiff-necked, politically correct arsehole.

And now I leave you to deliver another of your rambling replies that completely misses the point. Since you are pretty much guaranteed to again miss the point, I'll just pre-emptively point you at the second and third paragraphs of this post and not bother replying.

End of thread (for me).
Ben

PS I am giving the quote as it appeared on CNN. If there is a grammar error, blame them. I don't care.

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Post #259,498 by ben_tilly 6/20/06 9:18:03 PM Reply	I began a complete response to this And then decided not to bother. You don't understand the difference between a reason and every reason. You refuse to see that there are reasons to give him any benefit of the doubt. As far as you're concerned, he's an evil person and obviously a complete asshole. You're unable to even consider the possibility of trying to see the world from the point of view of a person who has spent 15 years paying a substantial sum to a person he's not even allowed to meet! After a few years of this, I would expect that some resentment would set in. After 15 years I have no idea what it would be like. None of this surprises me. You've always been one of the fastest people around here to judge others, and you seem to always judge harshly. In fact it seems that you've got all of the intolerance that made the German people infamous, only it has gone into being aggressively politically correct. The result is that you're a stiff-necked, politically correct arsehole. And now I leave you to deliver another of your rambling replies that completely misses the point. Since you are pretty much guaranteed to again miss the point, I'll just pre-emptively point you at the second and third paragraphs of this post and not bother replying. End of thread (for me). Ben PS I am giving the quote as it appeared on CNN. If there is a grammar error, blame them. I don't care. The great masses of people ... will more easily fall victims to a big lie than to a small one. -- Adolf Hitler
Post #259,529 by jake123 6/21/06 5:52:49 AM Reply	That might be true but he shouldn't carry resentment against the person who did not make the decision: to wit, the child, the one person we can safely say has not behaved badly in this situation. As for Mom and Dad, I think we can safely assume that at points both of them have. --\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\n* Jack Troughton jake at consultron.ca \n [link\|http://consultron.ca\|http://consultron.ca] [link\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] \n Kingston Ontario Canada [link\|news://news.consultron.ca\|news://news.consultron.ca] *\n-------------------------------------------------------------------
Post #259,552 by ben_tilly 6/21/06 12:57:35 PM Reply	He shouldn't, but I'm not surprised if he does The great masses of people ... will more easily fall victims to a big lie than to a small one. -- Adolf Hitler
Post #259,576 by jake123 6/21/06 3:21:59 PM Reply	That doesn't change the fact that he's still punishing the one person that is not at fault in any way... and that people are going to judge that action by those lights. He may have a reason, but I personally don't see how one can possibly argue that it is either necessary or sufficient. He may have very good reasons to be pissed at the Mom; projecting that onto his child is just bad. --\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\n* Jack Troughton jake at consultron.ca \n [link\|http://consultron.ca\|http://consultron.ca] [link\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] \n Kingston Ontario Canada [link\|news://news.consultron.ca\|news://news.consultron.ca] *\n-------------------------------------------------------------------
Post #259,583 by ben_tilly 6/21/06 3:40:21 PM Reply	Agreed, but emotions are not logical Somewhat predictable, yes. Logical, no. Cheers, Ben The great masses of people ... will more easily fall victims to a big lie than to a small one. -- Adolf Hitler
Post #259,651 by bionerd 6/21/06 9:14:38 PM Reply	You sound like Mr. Spock Sometimes. When a man is alone in his room... he wears stretchy pants. It's for fun.
Post #259,654 by ben_tilly 6/21/06 9:22:33 PM 6/21/06 9:37:18 PM Reply	/me raises an eyebrow Fascinating. Cheers, Ben The great masses of people ... will more easily fall victims to a big lie than to a small one. -- Adolf Hitler Edited by ben_tilly June 21, 2006, 09:37:18 PM EDT Expand All History
Post #259,655 by n3jja 6/21/06 9:28:18 PM Reply	Fascinating.....
Post #259,670 by folkert 6/22/06 8:07:47 AM Reply	Dammit Jim, I'm a Doctor! Not a Greenblood! -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* Freedom is not FREE. Yeah, but 10s of Trillions of US Dollars? SELECT * FROM scog WHERE ethics > 0; 0 rows returned.

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