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New Netscape 6.02...
... is not compatible with VBScript. :-)

My solution is quite straight-forward:

Suck it up, change to JavaScript, and get with the program. I have demonstrable proof that it is quite easy to develop for both Mozilla and IE 5. Quitcher bitchin' and do what many other web companies do, and do the extra bit of work necessary. Stop proposing expensive, time-consuming, make-work alternatives simply because you do not want to support a non-MS product.

But again, to do that, I need to make sure I have properly prepared against the use of Citrix.
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New Yr facing a psycholgcl. issue not really a technical one
You can't program around PHB thinking forever, it will eventually catch up to the design. Then again, "live for today" some say.

In such situations I often make a pro/con report of each of the choices with estimated hours of labor required. If (when) they still go down the PHB route and F up, I can always whip out my pro/con report. It won't fix the problem nor make them like you, but satisfies the "I told you so" gland.

The best solution from a career standpoint is to shut up and go with the flow [1]. I shud know, because I almost never do that :-)

[1] Make sure they know your opinion on the subject, but don't keep "nagging" them. If they act like they didn't want to hear your opinion the first time, then it is not likely they will listen the second time and risk making you look like a geekpest. PHB's like to twist reality, not face it.
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New This isn't a PHB thing.
These are recalcitrant developers, not managers.
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New Web Compass
There used to be a Web Compass plug-in that did VBScript for Netscape. I think that they discontinued it.

"Will code Visual BASIC for cash."
New It's all javascript, I've come to find out
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New I'd agree with your solution
but I can't help you with the case against Citrix/VB.NET

Do you have to deal with these people?
Using VBScript for client side scripting? To put it nicely, I'm not impressed with their decision making.

Oh, well, at least from a language perspective, JavaScript (or JScript if they're true MS wienies) should be able to do anything VBScript can do -- and a whole lot more.

Tony
New MS oriented IT people
I used to work with that type. Totally against anything that was not Microsoft. If you wanted to do Java, they would refuse to support you. If you wanted Javascript or JScript, you'd better give them a good reason why VBScrpt couldn't do the same things. In some cases we had to use Javascript/JScript because the DHTML in VBScript was lacking.

They are so strict that they even disallow Visual C++ and Visual J++ because it is not Visual BASIC, and nobody else in the firm would be able to support it if you are gone (got fired, downsized, you quit, etc.)

Those types are almost as bad as the PHBs that push for an MS-Only solution.

"Will code Visual BASIC for cash."
New I was wrong about the vbscript
It's all javascript, just IE-specific.

Their case is looking weaker by the moment.
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
     Call for opinions: re: IE vs. Netscape vs. Citrix vs. .NET - (admin) - (39)
         Just to be obvious - (drewk) - (1)
             That will be one of the points. - (admin)
         This is up my alley. - (nking) - (3)
             Re: This is up my alley. - (admin) - (1)
                 Alley cats - (nking)
             Another ? on licensing - (admin)
         Does it run under Mozilla? - (ben_tilly) - (1)
             No. - (admin)
         Modification effort? - (tablizer) - (1)
             IF statements not even necessary - (admin)
         Take a look at Ximian's Mono... - (kmself) - (1)
             Very doubtful. - (admin)
         Is IE still on the clients' machines? - (altmann) - (3)
             Unknown. - (admin) - (2)
                 IE on client machines - (nking) - (1)
                     The idea is to avoid a complete rewrite... -NT - (admin)
         My $0.02. - (Another Scott) - (9)
             Nicely put, or, the dentist says "this won't hurt a bit" -NT - (wharris2)
             Netscape 6.02... - (admin) - (7)
                 Yr facing a psycholgcl. issue not really a technical one - (tablizer) - (1)
                     This isn't a PHB thing. - (admin)
                 Web Compass - (nking) - (1)
                     It's all javascript, I've come to find out -NT - (admin)
                 I'd agree with your solution - (tonytib) - (2)
                     MS oriented IT people - (nking)
                     I was wrong about the vbscript - (admin)
         Flat out refusal to answer... - (folkert) - (1)
             Refresh my memory? -NT - (admin)
         lets look at the ongoing maintenance costs - (boxley) - (10)
             You are correct - (nking) - (9)
                 Cynical view - (wharris2) - (8)
                     If you want to keep that view... - (ben_tilly) - (4)
                         yes, well I'll charge him even more - (cforde) - (3)
                             At this rate... - (ben_tilly)
                             Good for him I'll charge less - (drewk) - (1)
                                 Too bad for you... - (ben_tilly)
                     That is why Open Source doesn't catch on with the suits - (nking) - (2)
                         Heh - (n3jja) - (1)
                             Problem solving - (nking)

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