Note the "Linux ONLY" part.

Post #25,727 by a6l6e6x 1/25/02 2:03:40 PM Reply	Note the "Linux ONLY" part. Prior Linux on IBM host were Linux on a virtual machine, even tens of thousands of them on a host machine. The base OS was VM/ESA or z/VM. [link\|http://publib-b.boulder.ibm.com/Redbooks.nsf/3c7330a3359c75a68525698b007bbec9/a8ba52e84b499312852569f10054a918?OpenDocument\|Link.] So this is different. Alex Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction. -- Blaise Pascal (1623-1662)
Post #25,851 by broomberg 1/26/02 10:00:42 AM Reply	They lie The second they release this, the downward price pressure on the rest of their gear kicks in. We were holding out on a mainframe upgrade. We could save $500,00 per year by staying where we were when the lease runs out. IBM pitched a a new/older model to replace our current. Slow piece of shit, but our software costs would not rise, and it would have a dedicated Linux CPU. We said no. They came back, pitched the latest model with the latest processor, but configured it so that the "model group" was the same as current, which means our software costs stay the same. We get an immediate cost savings, it is a bit faster than the current one, and I get 1/2 of it for Linux since a full CPU (not just LPAR) will be dedicated to Linux. And if I don't use the Linux side at all, it still is a good deal, so they are not betting on Linux consolidation to pay for the cost of the hardware. I think we might got for it, and I'm not arguing against.
Post #25,855 by brettj 1/26/02 10:37:35 AM 1/26/02 12:05:56 PM Reply	Gartner Commentary: IBM's Linux leanings Here's some info that might help in your decision making process. [link\|http://news.com.com/2009-1001-823512.html\|Commentary: IBM's Linux leanings] Gartner Viewpoint Special to CNET News.com January 25, 2002, 2:30 PM PT By Mike Chuba and John Phelps, Gartner Analysts In the past year, Linux on the mainframe has moved from an outsider in the data center to a credible offering for select environments. IBM continues to invest heavily in the promotion of Linux on the mainframe, as that operating system represents its best opportunity to capture new workloads for its mainframe business within the enterprise as well as with Internet service providers. <<<< [link\|http://www.informationweek.com/story/IWK20020125S0001\| IBM To Offer Linux-Only Mainframe] Informationweek.com Jan. 25, 2002 Continuing its push into the Linux market, IBM Friday said it will begin selling a mainframe computer that uses the open-source operating system as its sole operating system. IBM officials say the offering is aimed at businesses that use numerous smaller servers, such as those powered by a combination of Intel microprocessors and Microsoft's Windows operating system. Transferring the computing tasks handled by multiple servers onto a single mainframe, the company maintains, will help users lower their overall computing costs without sacrificing horsepower. .... A basic version of the Linux-only mainframe will start at about $400,000, including three years of maintenance, while the sticker price on an entry-level zOS-based mainframe starts at about $750,000. Edited by brettj Jan. 26, 2002, 12:05:56 PM EST Expand All History

Welcome to IWETHEY!