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Post #257,183
by pwhysall
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5/30/06 12:52:39 PM
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New Kindasorta
I bet you a pint that the design process was basically "well, we put in EVERYTHING that came from EVERY SINGLE focus group we had, so it's digital sex on a screen! It has to be, right? Look, we're user oriented!"

And behold, it's Winders Vista. With seethrough bits that aren't, and navigable bits that don't, and side panes you close by hiding them under another one, and I still can't find how you alter the UI font.

Peter
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Post #257,184
by hnick
5/30/06 1:06:38 PM
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New Other factors
While you probably wouldn't lose your pint, I think part of their problem is that they have a LOT of groups, each concerned with their own little part. They've made some agreements and assumptions about how things are going to get together and over the course of time, these may or may not be still valid.
The NDIS bunch, for example, may have set things up so it is optimized perfectly for their purposes. They may not have kept in touch with the wireless networking team and that interface is possibly less than optimum. Both teams may have to make compromises that they don't really like. Enough of these and you get a Vista looking thingy.
Just my guess...
Post #257,198
by pwhysall
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5/30/06 1:58:55 PM
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New You got it
It's called "We don't got no Steve Jobs, and boy, does it show".

Although Gates and Ballmer talk a lot and have bad billionaire hair a lot, there doesn't seem to be that vision thing going on at MS.

Peter
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Post #257,204
by drewk
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5/30/06 2:59:07 PM
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New Holy crap, Vista is Bruce Almighty
We've all seen the LRPD about Windows and Jennifer Aniston. In a "one degree of Jennifer Aniston" moment:

Vista is [link|http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0315327/|Bruce Almighty]: just say "yes" to every request and see how that works out.
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     Windows Vista Beta 2 Impressions - (pwhysall) - (48) - May 27, 2006, 02:41:35 PM EDT
         Thanks. What if one is running Win2k? Any reason to try it? -NT - (Another Scott) - (2) - May 27, 2006, 04:23:45 PM EDT
             No. There's no advantage. - (hnick) - (1) - May 27, 2006, 04:46:45 PM EDT
                 Like a monkey fscking a football? -NT - (jb4) - May 27, 2006, 11:16:33 PM EDT
         Two questions. - (CRConrad) - (42) - May 29, 2006, 02:31:31 AM EDT
             Re: Two questions. - (pwhysall) - (9) - May 29, 2006, 04:44:04 AM EDT
                 Sigh.... - (CRConrad) - (8) - May 29, 2006, 09:08:34 AM EDT
                     You might think something's gone over my head. - (pwhysall) - (7) - May 29, 2006, 11:24:45 AM EDT
                         I assure you, it has. - (CRConrad) - (6) - May 29, 2006, 12:54:28 PM EDT
                             Exactly wrong, but hey ho. -NT - (pwhysall) - (5) - May 29, 2006, 01:59:04 PM EDT
                                 Explain how. -NT - (CRConrad) - (4) - May 30, 2006, 02:30:24 AM EDT
                                     No. - (pwhysall) - (3) - May 30, 2006, 03:06:48 AM EDT
                                         Then don't open your gob in the first place. - (CRConrad) - (2) - May 30, 2006, 03:30:59 AM EDT
                                             What? - (pwhysall) - (1) - May 30, 2006, 03:33:42 AM EDT
                                                 Settle down, children - (drewk) - May 30, 2006, 09:33:40 AM EDT
             A comment from the peanut gallery. - (Another Scott) - (31) - May 30, 2006, 07:29:33 AM EDT
                 Oh I don't know... - (bepatient) - (3) - May 30, 2006, 09:21:41 AM EDT
                     Even Eleanor of Tsort? -NT - (admin) - (2) - May 30, 2006, 09:34:24 AM EDT
                         Guess I have a reading assignment - (bepatient) - (1) - May 30, 2006, 01:15:33 PM EDT
                             Read them all! - (imric) - May 30, 2006, 03:23:27 PM EDT
                 It's weird. - (pwhysall) - (26) - May 30, 2006, 11:32:19 AM EDT
                     Sounds like "educated opinion syndrome" - (drewk) - (4) - May 30, 2006, 12:13:19 PM EDT
                         Kindasorta - (pwhysall) - (3) - May 30, 2006, 12:52:39 PM EDT
                             Other factors - (hnick) - (1) - May 30, 2006, 01:06:38 PM EDT
                                 You got it - (pwhysall) - May 30, 2006, 01:58:55 PM EDT
                             Holy crap, Vista is Bruce Almighty - (drewk) - May 30, 2006, 02:59:07 PM EDT
                     Screenie. 1MB image. - (pwhysall) - (20) - May 31, 2006, 04:48:10 PM EDT
                         looks like they are working very hard... - (bepatient) - May 31, 2006, 04:50:57 PM EDT
                         That Control Panel in full. 360K image - (pwhysall) - (2) - May 31, 2006, 05:06:09 PM EDT
                             3 more than XP, BFD (and not the default view) -NT - (altmann) - (1) - June 1, 2006, 02:33:00 AM EDT
                                 Do I detect a Vista fan in the house? - (pwhysall) - June 1, 2006, 08:06:17 AM EDT
                         Lesse Insecure exposer now has * and + buttons... - (jb4) - (3) - May 31, 2006, 05:44:27 PM EDT
                             No...those are for tabs. IE 7 has them. -NT - (bepatient) - (2) - May 31, 2006, 05:59:41 PM EDT
                                 Kewl...so where'd they hide the Forward and Back buttons? - (jb4) - (1) - June 1, 2006, 02:03:35 PM EDT
                                     Right above the * and + buttons -NT - (altmann) - June 1, 2006, 03:27:17 PM EDT
                         And the purpose of these distracting . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (2) - May 31, 2006, 09:11:04 PM EDT
                             Re: And the purpose of these distracting . . . - (pwhysall) - (1) - June 1, 2006, 01:34:16 AM EDT
                                 Useful information? From MS? Pass me what you're smoking. -NT - (n3jja) - June 1, 2006, 06:54:21 PM EDT
                         Another Screenie (1.8MB PNG) - (altmann) - (8) - June 1, 2006, 02:31:13 AM EDT
                             Re: Another Screenie (1.8MB PNG) - (pwhysall) - (4) - June 1, 2006, 08:05:01 AM EDT
                                 Re: Another Screenie (1.8MB PNG) - (altmann) - (3) - June 1, 2006, 02:46:27 PM EDT
                                     Re: Another Screenie (1.8MB PNG) - (pwhysall) - (2) - June 1, 2006, 10:41:52 PM EDT
                                         Re: Another Screenie (1.8MB PNG) - (altmann) - (1) - June 2, 2006, 01:57:15 AM EDT
                                             Re: Another Screenie (1.8MB PNG) - (pwhysall) - June 2, 2006, 03:12:22 AM EDT
                             Someone get a tape measure-Gotta find out who is bigger ;-j -NT - (jbrabeck) - (2) - June 1, 2006, 10:00:22 AM EDT
                                 *NO* rulers at the BeepBash -NT - (drewk) - (1) - June 1, 2006, 10:06:27 AM EDT
                                     Now who's dreamin'? ;-) -NT - (n3jja) - June 1, 2006, 06:56:24 PM EDT
         And just wait until you try to remove the beta! - (drewk) - (1) - June 2, 2006, 02:42:06 PM EDT
             Well, it doesn't do step 3 anymore :) -NT - (altmann) - June 2, 2006, 02:51:51 PM EDT

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