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New Republicans have also claimed (just as BP is now)
that they wouldn't be the party of corruption that the Democrats are. I remember, far too well, the old arguments of THRO (Throw the Hypocritical Rascal Out) that reigned during the Reagan years.

But BP's argument falls flat. He's attempting to claim that Democrats Liberals are trying to protect this idiot. They aren't. They are demanding that he [link|http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2006/05/busby_jefferson.html|step down].

Worse, he blasts Nancy but totally ignores the comments Newt, Boehner, and Hastert. But Nancy is calling for investigations while the other three are attempting to claim that Congress is above the law.

New Great...now you have 1
Remember...good ole Nance just wants to have the Ethics Committee look at him...while I believe she was demanding full resignation of those on the other side of the aisle who were >accused< with far less actual evidence.

And on the "above the law" piece, they are ALL worried...this is one place where we will see Democrats and Republicans agree because (as my point has been all along) they are ALL created equally crooked.
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
Expand Edited by bepatient May 24, 2006, 11:35:46 AM EDT
New I think you're caught up in the vortex from the spinners.
I'm not aware of her demanding the resignation of members merely accused of misconduct.

[link|http://democraticleader.house.gov/press/releases.cfm?pressReleaseID=724|Pelosi statement] from October 2004:

"The repeated abuses of power by the Majority Leader have earned him three rebukes by the Ethics Committee in a single week, bringing dishonor on this House of Representatives and demonstrating a pattern of unethical behavior.

"Unbelievably, the Majority Leader denies that he has been rebuked. At every stage, he has shown contempt, not contrition. Instead of taking responsibility for his actions, he and his Republican defenders insist that these charges are merely partisan attacks. But the bipartisan Ethics Committee voted unanimously to admonish Mr. DeLay. In their seven-page letter to him, the Members wrote that his actions 'went beyond the bounds of acceptable conduct.'

"The Ethics Committee should be commended for acting in a bipartisan manner in the best interest of the House of Representatives. They were not given an easy task, but they put principle above party and did their duty.

"Still, serious allegations about the Majority Leader remain. Recent press reports indicate that he has been personally involved in directing some of the fund-raising activities of a political action committee that is under a grand jury investigation in Texas. The Ethics Committee deferred action on a similar complaint, pending action by the grand jury.

"Given this new information, and our need to restore the honor of this body, I introduced a privileged resolution in the House asking for the appointment of a special counsel to investigate these serious charges. Our duty to this institution and to the people we serve compels us to seek the truth.

[...]


[link|http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/politics/3871538.html|Houston Chronicle] story from May 2006:

WASHINGTON \ufffd In a burst of activity that ended 16 months of political gridlock, the House ethics committee Wednesday launched a flurry of investigations _ focusing on a Republican linked to convicted lobbyist Jack Abramoff and a Democrat at the center of a separate bribery probe.

The bribery investigations of Reps. Bob Ney, R-Ohio, and William Jefferson, D-La., will determine whether they violated House rules, but the probes only add to their legal woes. The Justice Department already is conducting bribery investigations of Ney and Jefferson, both of whom have denied wrongdoing.

By targeting a member of each party, committee leaders avoided allegations of partisanship in a year when Democrats are trying to make Republican misconduct a major campaign issue. Despite the inclusion of Jefferson, House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi called the announcement "long overdue."

The investigations disclosed by the Republican ethics chairman and the senior Democrat on the evenly divided committee were only two of four separate announcements.

The committee leaders also approved an inquiry into whether other lawmakers were involved in a bribery scandal that landed former Rep. Randy "Duke" Cunningham, R-Calif., in prison with an eight-year sentence. And they said they would have investigated payments of former Majority Leader Tom DeLay's overseas travel _ had he not decided to leave Congress next month.

[...]


She may have said that DeLay should resign in frustration at the lack of action by the Ethics Committee, but I haven't found anything like that. There is [link|http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2005/09/28/national/w105407D86.DTL|this]:

"The criminal indictment of Majority Leader Tom Delay is the latest example that Republicans in Congress are plagued by a culture of corruption at the expense of the American people." \ufffd House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi of California.


FWIW.

Cheers,
Scott.
New Pelosi calls for Jefferson's resignation
If only she's done this earlier, Bill would have had to find another Rovian talking point.

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Impeach Bush. Impeach Cheney. Do it now.
New ... from Ways and Means Committee - Not from the House. :-)
New What he said
and, by the way, your "Rovian" comment would seem to be a pure defense of Democrat's virtue..since my point is they are ALL bad.

But you're too busy inventing a position for me to notice...ain't ya ;-)
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
New Seems like it's more than she did to "the other side"
My quick google search can't find any news articles on her calling for the resignation of a Republican Copngress critter prior to an actual criminal charge (or post charge either).

And as I have already said this creep needs to be jailed, you will need to find another interpretation of my "Rovian" quip.
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Impeach Bush. Impeach Cheney. Do it now.
New Time to apologise.
I'm sorry. I hit you like you were a right wing shill. That is not the case. I know this. Sorry.
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Impeach Bush. Impeach Cheney. Do it now.
New That had to hurt ;-)
Not necessary...but awfully sweet of you ;-p
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
New D00d.....
while I believe she was demanding full resignation of those on the other side of the aisle who were >accused< with far less actual evidence


What's-his-name hasn't even been ACCUSED yet. No charges have been filed. Remember?

-- On Edit --
One point in your favor, btw. Nancy has only just now asked that he step down from the Ways and Means. (rolling eyes -- she needs to demand that he resign) [link|http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/politics/3885636.html| Source ]
Expand Edited by Simon_Jester May 24, 2006, 01:36:09 PM EDT
New That's still kind of a step up
from rewriting the rules about whether you can serve on the ethics committee while still under indictment like the wingnuts did for Delay.

I do think he should resign though and I hope the Dems band together and throw him under the bus.



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     So much for it just being Republicans - (bepatient) - (38)
         Who claimed it was just the Republicans? - (Silverlock)
         That's fine - at least they got a warrant - (tuberculosis)
         I know...it's sad. (and a follow-up) - (Simon_Jester) - (22)
             The Daily KOS is not "democrats" - (bepatient) - (21)
                 She made a good point badly - (drewk)
                 I suppose your right.... - (Simon_Jester) - (13)
                     Did you read the title of the first post? - (bepatient) - (12)
                         Agreed it is two-sided. But the Republicans do more of it. - (ben_tilly) - (11)
                             Republicans have also claimed (just as BP is now) - (Simon_Jester) - (10)
                                 Great...now you have 1 - (bepatient) - (9)
                                     I think you're caught up in the vortex from the spinners. - (Another Scott) - (6)
                                         Pelosi calls for Jefferson's resignation - (Silverlock) - (5)
                                             ... from Ways and Means Committee - Not from the House. :-) -NT - (Another Scott)
                                             What he said - (bepatient) - (3)
                                                 Seems like it's more than she did to "the other side" - (Silverlock)
                                                 Time to apologise. - (Silverlock) - (1)
                                                     That had to hurt ;-) - (bepatient)
                                     D00d..... - (Simon_Jester)
                                     That's still kind of a step up - (tuberculosis)
                 Ya know he's guilty - (tuberculosis) - (5)
                     Oh, come now... - (hnick)
                     I wonder what's in Dennis's freezer. -NT - (inthane-chan) - (3)
                         Cuban cigars, I wot... -NT - (jb4) - (2)
                             naw, just cubans :-) -NT - (boxley) - (1)
                                 Right. Nannies is my guess. -NT - (mmoffitt)
         Will we see Marlowe denouncing the left wing as corrupt? -NT - (warmachine) - (1)
             He hasn't done that already? I'm shocked and awed. -NT - (bepatient)
         he's from louisiana, doesnt matter what party he is in -NT - (boxley)
         Now I agree with BP.... - (Simon_Jester) - (6)
             I see both sides - (drewk)
             They're not above the law, but the Constitution says... - (Another Scott) - (2)
                 couple problems with that - (Silverlock)
                 I note it.... - (Simon_Jester)
             I feel the earth...move...under my feet ;-) -NT - (bepatient) - (1)
                 OY! no singing!! -NT - (boxley)
         Have to do a follow-up.... - (Simon_Jester) - (2)
             Ah, Sam Clemens - (imric)
             Wow...looks like they got something right for once. -NT - (bepatient)

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