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New The opposite is true
I like type systems that work. Specifically, I like dynamic type systems. I like that you can look at any set of bits in a Smalltalk executable and know exactly WTF you are looking at (because of bit tagging).

I dislike shit like C++ which cheerfully tosses all type information into the bit bucket at compile time.

C does this too, but C is a useful tool that is hardware oriented (a sometimes necessary evil) but Smalltalk (and hopefully all application development languages) is a tool designed to be human oriented (as evidenced by an ongoing discussion about array indexing on the Squeak list where in the expression

1 to: 5 do: [:n | ...]

n will take on the values { 1, 2, ... 5} rather than the machine oriented C where to get that set you say

for(i=1; i < 6; ++i)
).

So I like type systems that are helpful. I dislike typing a lot of mumbo jumbo just so the compiler can throw it away.



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New Amen to that
When I read that, an old part of the brain came up with
for I := 1 to 5 do
which doesn't require translation.

Still, Java code like for (ItemVO item: items) is a tiny step in the right direction and enumerated types are long overdue.

Bloody derivative of structured assembly language.
Matthew Greet


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     Why Vista is not built on .NET - (tuberculosis) - (6)
         Seem to recall you decrying type systems of any sort.... -NT - (jb4) - (4)
             A typesafe language is preferable to C/C++ - (ben_tilly)
             The problem is that C/C++ has a typed compiler - (admin)
             The opposite is true - (tuberculosis) - (1)
                 Amen to that - (warmachine)
         dot-net is a Java competitor - (tablizer)

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