Windows Vista delayed until 2007

Post #248,813 by bluke 3/22/06 4:09:05 AM 3/22/06 4:30:39 AM Reply	Windows Vista delayed until 2007 [link\|http://news.com.com/2100-1016_3-6052270.html\|Vista debut hits a delay] Microsoft on Tuesday announced a delay of Windows Vista that will mean PCs with the new operating system won't go on sale until January. What do you think the real reason is? How does this affect Microsoft? This is really funny. They delayed by a few weeks into January, supposedly to lock down some security issues. It's only March now. You're telling me that Microsoft can see a 2-4 week delay that clearly right now? Not a chance given their track record. I think this was just to get out the word that it won't ship for Christmas 2006, and then when this small delay turns into 6-9 months, no one will care so much because they already missed Christmas 2006. Edited by bluke March 22, 2006, 04:30:39 AM EST Expand All History
Post #248,815 by altmann 3/22/06 4:28:49 AM Reply	Re: Windows Vista delayed until 2007 From what I gather, the actual RTM date has slipped so close to the holidays (November 2006 from somewhere between August and October) that many OEMs and retailers just said "Fuck it. We don't have time to set up our marketing, supply chains and salesdroids for this and don't trust you'll get it out in time anyways, so just punt the big hype launch till January 07 when we have more time". So it will still "ship" in 2006 and Volume License customers will still get it (like they'll roll it out any time before 2008 anyways), and consumers will have to wait till 2007. Maybe the OEMs will do free upgrade vouchers for xmas PC sales. As for what is causing the slippage itself, there are several interesting posts to [link\|http://minimsft.blogspot.com/2006/03/vista-2007-fire-leadership-now.html#comments\|this thread] at mini-microsoft that point to a burdensome development process implemented after the "reset" last year as well as other management problems. -- Chris Altmann
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Post #248,853 by tuberculosis 3/22/06 11:19:34 AM Reply	They'll have to do vouchers or xmas sales will be way down [link\|http://www.blackbagops.net\|Black Bag Operations Log] [link\|http://www.objectiveclips.com\|Artificial Intelligence] [link\|http://www.badpage.info/seaside/html\|Scrutinizer]
Post #248,863 by JayMehaffey 3/22/06 12:13:53 PM Reply	It will probably be moved again Microsoft will probably move the date again to sometime late spring or early summer for exactly that reason. This shift just made clear it won't be a 2006 product for the companies planning their marketing for the second half of 2006. The next shift will move it to the final realse date. Jay
Post #248,865 by ben_tilly 3/22/06 12:21:31 PM Reply	You're an optimist Personally I won't believe any schedule announcement from Microsoft until I hear that they are pressing final CDs. Cheers, Ben I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Post #248,877 by Andrew Grygus 3/22/06 12:58:39 PM Reply	'How can you respect a company that can't meet . . . . . it's delivery dates?' - Bill Gates on Lotus delaying a 123 upgrade release for a couple months. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #248,897 by JayMehaffey 3/22/06 2:10:02 PM Reply	Because they have not moved the download date They moved the date they intend to start retail selling it, but not the date it would become available to the big companies on the volume liscense plans. That makes it clear that MS really does plan to finish it this year, but that they couldn't lock the date down for the big computer makers. I think MS is to the point they are going to ship Vista shortly, done or not. Jay
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Post #248,884 by Andrew Grygus 3/22/06 1:16:23 PM Reply	Gaaaaaa! My Microsoft stock dropped 1/2 point! Everytime it's going up there's some reminder of reality and a few, very few, people realize the stock is overvalued. It only lasts a day or few but it's now so frequent - I need one last episode of unrealistic exuberance to sell above basis. Well, who cares, really, I don't own much, inherited it, and maybe I'll need the $450 loss someday. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #248,903 by admin 3/22/06 3:34:04 PM Reply	What's the difference between OS X and Windows Vista? Microsoft employees are excited about OS X. From: [link\|http://minimsft.blogspot.com/2006/03/vista-2007-fire-leadership-now.html\|http://minimsft.blog...adership-now.html] Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
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Post #248,932 by inthane-chan 3/22/06 7:19:40 PM Reply	What were you smoking? And where can I get some? Microsoft has SUCKED as a workplace since 2001 - and has continued to suck, according to people I know who still work there. When somebody asks you to trade your freedoms for security, it isn't your* security they're talking about.*
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Post #248,944 by tuberculosis 3/22/06 8:44:04 PM 3/22/06 8:47:08 PM Reply	Re: What's the difference between OS X and Windows Vista? One ships updates every 18 months. The other ups ship dates every 18 months. [link\|http://www.blackbagops.net\|Black Bag Operations Log] [link\|http://www.objectiveclips.com\|Artificial Intelligence] [link\|http://www.badpage.info/seaside/html\|Scrutinizer] Edited by tuberculosis March 22, 2006, 08:47:08 PM EST Expand All History
Post #249,158 by Ashton 3/24/06 6:28:30 AM Reply	Brev. Awd. :-)

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