Post #244,870
2/16/06 12:30:11 AM
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A unix machine to do my bidding where TF is X11?
which means web site, host scrutinizer, other squeak/seaside apps, some php (maybe), email server, a wiki (probably squeak) and some discussion forums.
I have selected CentOS 4 - it seems OK HOWEVER its totally bare bones.
First thing I tried to do was build squeak vm - which needs X11 - which is apparently only partly installed.
Here's my observation for the day - RPM SUCKS DONKEY BALLS. Fuckers.
I want source. I wanna type ./configure; make; sudo make install.
That is the only fucking package manager I ever want to see in the whole fucking world apart from .tgz. What is this RPM shit that never works?
Rant over. I seem to only have about half of X11R6 installed - the runtime I think. I'm missing /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xlib.h
I have /usr/X11R6/include/X11/bitmaps - god knows why.
So how am I supposed to get the rest of this shit?
Ideas would be appreciated so I can get moving
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"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein
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Post #244,878
2/16/06 1:15:29 AM
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apt-get install squeak-vm
Peter
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Post #244,880
2/16/06 1:21:44 AM
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This is a rented box in a facility that gives me p3 svc
The only OS choice I get is RHEL something and CentOS.
So that wasn't too helpful there.
"Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" --Mark Twain
"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein
"This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush
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Post #244,892
2/16/06 2:57:01 AM
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No, it was...
...but it will take you some time to realise it.
Peter
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Post #244,955
2/16/06 11:41:09 AM
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Um - ok - so how do I get apt-get?
"Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" --Mark Twain
"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein
"This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush
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Post #244,885
2/16/06 1:55:47 AM
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ROFLRPD (new thread)
Created as new thread #244884 titled [link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=244884|ROFLRPD]
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Steve
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Post #244,886
2/16/06 2:03:14 AM
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yum install xorg-x11-devel
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Chris Altmann
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Post #244,888
2/16/06 2:15:13 AM
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Oooooooooohhhhhhhhh
you have saved our life - we are eternally grateful
"Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" --Mark Twain
"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein
"This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush
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Post #244,887
2/16/06 2:11:20 AM
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dreamhost?
maybe [link|http://dreamhost.com/|these guys] can help you. They host my sites. I have ssh and sftp access to a linux 2.4.29 system running on a quad processor Xeon system. "gcc -v" says "gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-13)", PHP is at 4.4.2, Perl is at 5.8.4 and X11 appears to be installed.
Have fun,
Carl Forde
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Post #244,889
2/16/06 2:17:31 AM
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I just signed up at bocacom.net
They got a killer deal on a P4 running right now.
If I tell qwest to screw, switch to comcast, get cable tv and vonage I'll still save money and have horsepower to burn. I'm really interested to see how scrutinizer performs on fast hardware with big ram.
"Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" --Mark Twain
"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein
"This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush
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Post #244,898
2/16/06 8:14:25 AM
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You need the X11-Devel stuff.
It is a simple matter of asking where the install RPMs are. More than likely they have an FTP server setup with the install images. Either download them and then do rpm --install -vh <insert rpm name>.rpm and watch it do its bidding or rpm --install -vh <URL of rpm> or something close.
CentOS is the Whitebox version of RHEL.
Except, it has a few more things done right.
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Post #244,957
2/16/06 11:45:50 AM
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Is there a firewall therer by default?
whats it called and where is the config file?
"Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" --Mark Twain
"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein
"This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush
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Post #244,964
2/16/06 11:53:23 AM
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You shouldn't need a host firewall.
They should already have a transparent Firewall there in place.
But, it is typically installed by default and blocks most things already.
do a "chkconfig" and "grep -i -e fire -e wall" or something like selinux*
Hope you get further.
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Post #244,977
2/16/06 12:48:57 PM
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I think it's sellinux* thing
I've seen it mentioned somewhere.
I fired up a squeak process on a port and couldn't hit it so I can't tell if its the squeak I just built, the firewall, the image I deployed or what.
Apache, OTOH worked fine. So 80 is open.
One cool thing about squeak - its got a vnc server that exports the main window as a display. Really handy thing. You can turn it on and off from a web page just to look things over.
"Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" --Mark Twain
"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein
"This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush
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