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New Can you tell me how...
I could have written the original question in a way that would have been understood?

I knew when I wrote it that it would sound very similar to many things that I didn't want. And I tried very hard to make it clear.

And yes, I actually said (So I could, if I wished, have both monitors showing me the same virtual desktop.) That implied to me that I would see the exact same applications on both of them.

As for Bill, his idea was much closer to what I asked for. He got the fact that it had to be possible for the same thing to be on both monitors. I felt that he just hadn't quite thought it through enough, and in his response he made it clear that he hadn't thought it through enough, and that he realized that for himself after posting.

In other words he knew what I was asking and thought he had a solution, but didn't. Which is very different than not figuring out what I was asking for.

Regards,
Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
New I think this is clearer.
[link|http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-list/2004-July/msg00035.html|Gnome-list]:

I'm trying to be able to view different virtual desktops on different monitors. For example, if Metacity has four virtual desktops and I have two monitors, it would be nice if I could control those monitors to view any two virtual desktops.


It took him a couple of attempts to put it that succinctly though. ;-)

[edit:] Formatting...

Cheers,
Scott.
Expand Edited by Another Scott Jan. 11, 2006, 10:13:41 PM EST
New Yes, that is clearer
I am not surprised that it took him a while to find a succinct way to put it. I spent a surprising amount of time trying to make my initial question clear, and obviously didn't succeed.

I guess one take-away is that a concrete example is always good when attempting to clarify things.

Cheers,
Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
New It's an "instance" problem
If you and I are both running "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8) Gecko/20051111 Firefox/1.5" we are both running the "same application". But we are running two different instances of two different installations on two different systems. If I were logged in twice to the same machine in different X sessions, I would be running two different instances if the same installation of the "same application".

So unfortunately, saying that you're viewing "the same applications on two screens" isn't unambiguous. And no, I can't tell you how to say it unambiguously and concisely.
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                 Brute-force method - (drewk) - (30)
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                                         Clarification - (drewk) - (4)
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                                                 I think this is clearer. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                                     Yes, that is clearer - (ben_tilly)
                                                 It's an "instance" problem - (drewk)
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                                                 I did... - (admin) - (1)
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                                                             None of which I have seen - (ben_tilly) - (7)
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                                                                     I don't watch TV, remember? -NT - (ben_tilly) - (4)
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                                             Thanks, that helps -NT - (ben_tilly)
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                     nope, you're correct - (bepatient)
         Maybe Xfce 4.2? - (Another Scott) - (1)
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