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New Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?
So as I alluded to [link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=239407|here], I've purchased a new computer. It's for my step-children. So I finally get Winblows installed on the thing, and get to the step of setting up usernames. OK, no big deal. I'm administering the machine. So first username is "mike". It's for the chitluns. Second username is "kids". Click "Next".
  • Names must be no more than 20 characters
  • Names must not contain the characters " * + , / : ; < = > ? [ \\ ] |
  • Names cannot just be all spaces and periods
  • Names must each be different
  • Names must not be equal to "KIDS", "Administrator" or "Guest"
Eh? I buy a computer for use by my kids, and I can't name their user account "kids"? YTH not?
-YendorMike

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania
New was kids already used?
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 50 years. meep
New Works fine on my xp box... curious.
Two out of three people wonder where the other one is.
New Is the computer name 'kids'?
When somebody asks you to trade your freedom for security, it isn't your security they're talking about.
New Ah, that might be it...
I believe so.
-YendorMike

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania
New That would absolutely be so.
I have modified my computer names for 2000 and XP to always add a number after the name, as in badger1. This allows me to have a user named badger.

You can go into Control Panel / System / Network Identity and change the name from Kids to Kids1.
[link|http://www.aaxnet.com|AAx]
New WTF is the reason for that?
-YendorMike

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania
New In the Active Directory scheme of things . . .
. . machines can be entities in the directory structure just like users. It'd be like having two users with the same name.

Now you might contemplate the insanity of forcing everyone from home users on up through small and medium business to major corporations to all conform to a structure designed for the likes of General Motors, but Microsoft was certain that wouldn't be a problem because nobody would have any choice.
[link|http://www.aaxnet.com|AAx]
New Bastardos.
-YendorMike

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania
New But Active Directory can't be the whole reason for that...
...can it? Because ISTR that NT4 had the same limitation -- and AFAIK that predates AD.

(OTOH, could be my memory that's faulty. [Edit:] I haven't done anywhere near enough weed, it seems.)


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Expand Edited by CRConrad Jan. 1, 2006, 05:39:17 PM EST
New No doubt it was being planned. Remember . . .
Windows NT was about to take over the corporate world and wipe Unix and mainframes off the map - and every magazine columnist and pundit agreed that's what would happen.

"Y2K won't be a problem because the last mainframe will be unplugged by then."

Somehow the dinosaurs didn't die and some pesky penguin has been eating up most of the Unix conversions. How could so many leading pundits have been wrong? It just doesn't seem possible

But behold mighty Vista and tremble!
[link|http://www.aaxnet.com|AAx]
New It's because you cannot duplicate NetBIOS names.


Peter
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New But it worked fine with NetBIOS and Windows 98.
I named dozens of machines and used the same name as the user login under '95 and '98 with no problem - and also with OS/2 using NetBIOS plain and NetBEUI over TCP/IP.
[link|http://www.aaxnet.com|AAx]
Expand Edited by Andrew Grygus Jan. 1, 2006, 06:12:43 PM EST
New Users aren't NetBIOS names in W9x, AFAIK


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New That is correct - so why are they now?
[link|http://www.aaxnet.com|AAx]
New Welcome To The Wonderful World Of Windows
Also, because there's no real sense of "users" in Windows 9x terms over and above a .pwl file.


Peter
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     Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? - (Yendor) - (15)
         was kids already used? -NT - (boxley)
         Works fine on my xp box... curious. -NT - (Meerkat)
         Is the computer name 'kids'? -NT - (inthane-chan) - (12)
             Ah, that might be it... - (Yendor) - (11)
                 That would absolutely be so. - (Andrew Grygus) - (10)
                     WTF is the reason for that? -NT - (Yendor) - (9)
                         In the Active Directory scheme of things . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (8)
                             Bastardos. -NT - (Yendor)
                             But Active Directory can't be the whole reason for that... - (CRConrad) - (6)
                                 No doubt it was being planned. Remember . . . - (Andrew Grygus)
                                 It's because you cannot duplicate NetBIOS names. -NT - (pwhysall) - (4)
                                     But it worked fine with NetBIOS and Windows 98. - (Andrew Grygus) - (3)
                                         Users aren't NetBIOS names in W9x, AFAIK -NT - (pwhysall) - (2)
                                             That is correct - so why are they now? -NT - (Andrew Grygus) - (1)
                                                 Welcome To The Wonderful World Of Windows - (pwhysall)

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