Graphing in Javascript using Canvas Tag - (tuberculosis) - (82) - Dec. 15, 2005, 09:06:52 PM EST
         Nifty, but next to useless, unfortunately. - (admin) - (8) - Dec. 15, 2005, 10:16:45 PM EST
             Only if you're supporting broken browsers - (tuberculosis) - (7) - Dec. 16, 2005, 01:33:27 AM EST
                 Er... - (admin) - (6) - Dec. 16, 2005, 07:13:18 AM EST
                     Yes, this is a toy - (tuberculosis) - (5) - Dec. 16, 2005, 11:05:56 AM EST
                         What about SVG? - (ChrisR) - (4) - Dec. 16, 2005, 11:23:05 AM EST
                             Its dead, Jim. - (tuberculosis) - (3) - Dec. 16, 2005, 12:08:00 PM EST
                                 It's dead on the web. - (pwhysall) - Dec. 16, 2005, 11:53:40 AM EST
                                 Standardization process is broken - (JayMehaffey) - (1) - Dec. 16, 2005, 12:17:52 PM EST
                                     Have you ever served on standards committee? - (tuberculosis) - Dec. 16, 2005, 03:05:40 PM EST
         And it crashes older browsers.... - (Simon_Jester) - (72) - Dec. 20, 2005, 09:22:17 AM EST
             Cool! Makes you wanna upgrade! - (tuberculosis) - (71) - Dec. 20, 2005, 12:42:08 PM EST
                 No. Makes me think the web designer is a jackass. -NT - (ben_tilly) - (69) - Dec. 20, 2005, 12:43:38 PM EST
                     If a browser crashes - its not the designer's fault - (tuberculosis) - (68) - Dec. 20, 2005, 12:49:46 PM EST
                         Strongly disagree - (ben_tilly) - (67) - Dec. 20, 2005, 01:04:46 PM EST
                             I think we have different quality expectations of software - (tuberculosis) - (66) - Dec. 20, 2005, 02:45:35 PM EST
                                 I seem to recall... - (Yendor) - (1) - Dec. 20, 2005, 03:17:26 PM EST
                                     If it's valid HTML/CSS, that's a browser bug. - (pwhysall) - Dec. 20, 2005, 03:54:11 PM EST
                                 Agree on the crash thing. - (pwhysall) - Dec. 20, 2005, 03:53:07 PM EST
                                 I agree with you about well-written software - (ben_tilly) - (62) - Dec. 20, 2005, 04:14:38 PM EST
                                     Not blaming the users per se - (tuberculosis) - (61) - Dec. 20, 2005, 05:55:08 PM EST
                                         cf. Ada - (jb4) - Dec. 20, 2005, 06:28:32 PM EST
                                         member of a working group now, know what ya mean -NT - (boxley) - Dec. 20, 2005, 06:37:43 PM EST
                                         You might not be blaming the users... - (ben_tilly) - (58) - Dec. 20, 2005, 06:43:31 PM EST
                                             problem is you are all not willing to use microsoft only -NT - (boxley) - (1) - Dec. 20, 2005, 07:05:16 PM EST
                                                 The right analogy for that is... - (ben_tilly) - Dec. 20, 2005, 07:08:11 PM EST
                                             Or the user is enabling bad coders - (tuberculosis) - (55) - Dec. 20, 2005, 07:40:24 PM EST
                                                 Suppose I'm a user using an old browser... - (ben_tilly) - (54) - Dec. 20, 2005, 10:46:58 PM EST
                                                     By this logic we should all stick to html 3.2 forever - (tuberculosis) - (53) - Dec. 20, 2005, 11:38:00 PM EST
                                                         Go back to the root conversation - (ben_tilly) - (52) - Dec. 21, 2005, 11:49:20 AM EST
                                                             And it hasn't been touched in over 5 years - (tuberculosis) - (49) - Dec. 21, 2005, 12:23:33 PM EST
                                                                 In other words the 1% figure was a red herring - (ben_tilly) - (48) - Dec. 22, 2005, 12:20:51 PM EST
                                                                     I'm not the one doing the punishing in this scenario - (tuberculosis) - (4) - Dec. 22, 2005, 12:45:13 PM EST
                                                                         You're not? - (ben_tilly) - (3) - Dec. 22, 2005, 08:17:03 PM EST
                                                                             One user's pain is another's pleasure - (tuberculosis) - (2) - Dec. 23, 2005, 02:20:19 AM EST
                                                                                 Far too often... - (ben_tilly) - (1) - Dec. 23, 2005, 03:04:14 AM EST
                                                                                     He should not have to -NT - (broomberg) - Dec. 23, 2005, 11:49:48 AM EST
                                                                     Is high-bandwidth streaming video a punishment? - (drewk) - (22) - Dec. 22, 2005, 01:12:11 PM EST
                                                                         If you want to limit yourself... do that. - (folkert) - (18) - Dec. 22, 2005, 02:04:09 PM EST
                                                                             No, they're being punsished - (drewk) - (17) - Dec. 22, 2005, 02:10:59 PM EST
                                                                                 ICLRPDs. (new thread) - (Another Scott) - Dec. 22, 2005, 02:15:57 PM EST
                                                                                 I wonder how Ben feels about stations - (tuberculosis) - (3) - Dec. 22, 2005, 02:46:49 PM EST
                                                                                     Seems the US government is shoving this one - (folkert) - (1) - Dec. 22, 2005, 03:34:23 PM EST
                                                                                         IIRC - (jb4) - Dec. 27, 2005, 06:49:54 PM EST
                                                                                     I think that the switch is fine... - (ben_tilly) - Dec. 22, 2005, 04:38:27 PM EST
                                                                                 No, it is not punishing them. - (folkert) - (11) - Dec. 22, 2005, 03:29:32 PM EST
                                                                                     I think you summarized my position pretty well - (ben_tilly) - (10) - Dec. 22, 2005, 04:50:06 PM EST
                                                                                         Firefox is a 5MB download that works well on older computers -NT - (pwhysall) - (9) - Dec. 22, 2005, 04:54:24 PM EST
                                                                                             Not on my old system - (ben_tilly) - (8) - Dec. 22, 2005, 08:14:37 PM EST
                                                                                                 Re: Not on my old system - (pwhysall) - (7) - Dec. 23, 2005, 03:46:57 AM EST
                                                                                                     Is there a reason? - (ben_tilly) - (6) - Dec. 23, 2005, 01:23:02 PM EST
                                                                                                         "Hu-mour". -NT - (admin) - (5) - Dec. 23, 2005, 02:03:19 PM EST
                                                                                                             Can't be. It isn't funny. -NT - (ben_tilly) - (4) - Dec. 23, 2005, 02:33:37 PM EST
                                                                                                                 Beg to differ - (drewk) - Dec. 23, 2005, 02:40:14 PM EST
                                                                                                                 Maybe to *you* it isn't. - (admin) - (2) - Dec. 23, 2005, 05:45:53 PM EST
                                                                                                                     of course they are misfunctioning, he's a father now -NT - (boxley) - (1) - Dec. 23, 2005, 06:17:01 PM EST
                                                                                                                         Agreed - (broomberg) - Dec. 23, 2005, 07:41:44 PM EST
                                                                         No - (ben_tilly) - (2) - Dec. 22, 2005, 04:39:58 PM EST
                                                                             Nobody? - (drewk) - (1) - Dec. 22, 2005, 04:50:41 PM EST
                                                                                 People aren't doing that? - (ben_tilly) - Dec. 22, 2005, 08:12:52 PM EST
                                                                     I disagree - (pwhysall) - (1) - Dec. 22, 2005, 01:33:56 PM EST
                                                                         Yes, the product is broken. But... - (ben_tilly) - Dec. 22, 2005, 04:41:56 PM EST
                                                                     Also, aren't the users *choosing* to use a broken product? -NT - (pwhysall) - (17) - Dec. 22, 2005, 03:38:01 PM EST
                                                                         Same question I offered Todd - (ben_tilly) - (16) - Dec. 22, 2005, 08:24:54 PM EST
                                                                             Firefox, Opera, Safari, Camino -NT - (pwhysall) - (9) - Dec. 23, 2005, 03:47:48 AM EST
                                                                                 Firefox, Safari, and Camino at least are broken - (admin) - (7) - Dec. 23, 2005, 09:06:34 AM EST
                                                                                     Firefox and Safari - (tuberculosis) - (6) - Dec. 24, 2005, 10:56:24 PM EST
                                                                                         Firefox dumps core fairly regularly for me - (ben_tilly) - (1) - Dec. 25, 2005, 04:41:37 AM EST
                                                                                             Firefox/Deerpark 1.5 beta weird for me on MEPIS. - (Another Scott) - Dec. 25, 2005, 05:11:18 PM EST
                                                                                         Completely missing the point. - (admin) - (3) - Dec. 25, 2005, 02:35:08 PM EST
                                                                                             Yep, I don't get your point - (tuberculosis) - (2) - Dec. 25, 2005, 02:47:29 PM EST
                                                                                                 Re: Yep, I don't get your point - (admin) - (1) - Dec. 25, 2005, 03:47:43 PM EST
                                                                                                     So I should probably add something to my webpage - (tuberculosis) - Dec. 26, 2005, 10:59:48 PM EST
                                                                                 What Scott said - (ben_tilly) - Dec. 23, 2005, 02:02:36 PM EST
                                                                             Epiphany -NT - (drewk) - (5) - Dec. 23, 2005, 10:08:50 AM EST
                                                                                 I haven't used it yet but... - (ben_tilly) - (4) - Dec. 23, 2005, 01:25:46 PM EST
                                                                                     Well I feel silly - (SpiceWare) - (3) - Dec. 23, 2005, 01:59:00 PM EST
                                                                                         And now I feel silly as well - (ben_tilly) - (2) - Dec. 23, 2005, 02:04:57 PM EST
                                                                                             Wheee! cha-ching cha-ching - (drewk) - (1) - Dec. 23, 2005, 02:15:54 PM EST
                                                                                                 LOL - don't feel quite so silly anymore -NT - (SpiceWare) - Dec. 23, 2005, 04:04:24 PM EST
                                                             He who pays the piper calls the tune. - (broomberg) - (1) - Dec. 22, 2005, 09:38:12 PM EST
                                                                 I understand why it happens. I don't have to like it. -NT - (ben_tilly) - Dec. 22, 2005, 09:50:43 PM EST
                 "The job is not done - (Arkadiy) - Dec. 20, 2005, 08:24:39 PM EST