Post #234,596
11/16/05 8:59:01 PM
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FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK
I'm still here at 9 o'clock at night, I've got a half-dozen people coming in at 7 tomorrow morning to test, and a developer pushes a new build. Now I can't get to the site at all. He's standing here telling me it's a database permission problem, and the DBA just left.
I DON'T GIVE A FUCK IF IT'S A PERMISSION PROBLEM! IT WORKED UNTIL YOU PUSHED NEW CODE! PUT THE FUCKING SITE BACK!
Jesus fucking Christ, I want to hit this guy.
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Post #234,602
11/16/05 9:08:10 PM
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No, you don't hit them . . .
. . you put them in the transporter and punch in "delete" as the destination code.
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Post #235,391
11/21/05 6:24:34 PM
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mv /dev/transporter/* /dev/null
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Post #234,620
11/16/05 11:26:45 PM
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Thanks for reminding me why I like my job
Crap like that just Doesn't Happen here.
We are doing a push to production right now. Do it virtually every week, Wednesday if things went well in QA, Thursday if not. Usually on Wednesday.
While I admit to occasionally being around after 9, I also admit to occasionally arriving in the afternoon. We try to schedule things so that we are always working at a comfortable pace and not having counter-productive crunches.
Cheers,
Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
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Post #235,712
11/23/05 2:18:49 PM
8/21/07 6:37:16 AM
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Sounds like here
big web companies are refreshingly mature and sensibly organized.
Nice to be away from the amateurs and fuckups.
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Post #235,713
11/23/05 2:20:56 PM
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We have a "no release without Real Testing" culture.
Peter
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Post #235,716
11/23/05 2:41:50 PM
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We're trying to incubate a culture like that here.
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] Imric's Tips for Living
- Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
- Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
- Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
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Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
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Post #235,717
11/23/05 2:46:59 PM
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ObLRPD: Much like Mariah Carey says she doesn't do stairs.
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Post #235,746
11/23/05 6:51:22 PM
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We have that for some of our products.
Unfortunately, not really for the website.
Wade.
"Insert crowbar. Apply force."
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Post #235,763
11/23/05 7:47:20 PM
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We have that for our products
Not so much for our infrastructure. Our rollout of Exchange 2003 has been rife with flat out crap. Most of the crap can be traced back to clueless management and brain dead deliverable schedules. Some, however, is directly attibutable to the folks doing the rollout. One in particular. I have rarely seen an employee more qualified for termination. I'm not really sure why we don't use the same criteria for rollouts to our employees as we do to our customers.
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Post #236,207
11/27/05 3:37:09 PM
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So which is better, long or short cycles?
Ours are 8 weeks, with interim drops in between. Mainly this is to match our clients' cycles; we used to go more often but the clients found that to be too disruptive.
I suspect that retail sites like yours and Todd's have different concerns.
Regards,
-scott anderson
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Post #236,236
11/27/05 9:27:52 PM
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For us, short. Definitely.
The less there is in a push, the easier it is to get it out the door and the smaller likelyhood of serious problems. Let stuff pile up and potential bugs start interacting with each other. Plus if you have to back something out, then you have a mess of figuring out what depends on what.
Cheers,
Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
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Post #236,258
11/28/05 12:07:25 AM
8/21/07 12:44:16 PM
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We release stuff every other day
Everybody is on their own cycle and getting a release out isn't a big deal. App servers (written in C++) go out monthly. Other stuff ships as completed. To ship something, push it to staging, QA will do full regressions every other day of what is there and push it to production if it passes muster.
Deployments are pushbutton automated and can be rolled back with another button.
Working with mature infrastructure is such a joy.
"Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" --Mark Twain
"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein
"This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush
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Post #236,360
11/28/05 9:24:52 PM
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How do you manage database changes? (new thread)
Created as new thread #236359 titled [link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=236359|How do you manage database changes?]
Regards,
-scott anderson
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Post #234,626
11/17/05 1:38:18 AM
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"Testing? We've heard of it."
Peter
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