Post #229,989
10/18/05 5:44:36 PM
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Intelligent Design in court
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Post #229,998
10/18/05 6:36:40 PM
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Devolution
At this rate, the [link|http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/africa/10/18/nutcracking.gorillas.ap/index.html|Nut-Cracking Gorillas] will bypass the Nut Case Designers.
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Post #230,050
10/19/05 11:21:09 AM
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clams got legs! ID as a philosophy explains the gorillas
but is philosophy a science?
thanx,
bill
"the reason people don't buy conspiracy theories is that they think conspiracy means everyone is on the same program. Thats not how it works. Everybody has a different program. They just all want the same guy dead. Socrates was a gadfly, but I bet he took time out to screw somebodies wife" Gus Vitelli
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Post #230,069
10/19/05 1:06:36 PM
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ID Philosophy
Slugs! He created slugs! They can't hear, they can't speak, they can't operate machinery. If I were creating the world, I wouldn't mess about with butterflies and daffodils. I would've started with lasers, eight o'clock, day one.
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Post #230,088
10/19/05 3:20:01 PM
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lazers, morning of day 2 I beleive
"the reason people don't buy conspiracy theories is that they think conspiracy means everyone is on the same program. Thats not how it works. Everybody has a different program. They just all want the same guy dead. Socrates was a gadfly, but I bet he took time out to screw somebodies wife" Gus Vitelli
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 49 years. meep
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Post #230,114
10/19/05 5:10:34 PM
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Fish!__- - fish can be trained
Saw it on Nova's science summary.
(Latest field: surgery for pet fish, of which there are more than pet cats, dogs.)
What Happens When an Intelligent Designer Goes Bonkers?
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Post #230,115
10/19/05 5:15:54 PM
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What happens? IWETHEY...
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Post #230,131
10/19/05 6:49:01 PM
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Nawwww. That'd hafta be
What happens when a Supery Dupery Telescoopery Intelligent Design Goes Bonkers.
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Post #230,001
10/18/05 7:03:03 PM
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ID is not religious, yet only the devout christians push it.
Matthew Greet
Choose Life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family. Choose a fucking big television, choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players and electrical tin openers. Choose good health, low cholesterol, and dental insurance. Choose fixed interest mortgage repayments. Choose a starter home. Choose your friends. Choose leisurewear and matching luggage. Choose DIY and wondering who the fuck you are on a Sunday morning. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing, spirit-crushing game shows, stuffing fucking junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pishing your last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, fucked up brats you spawned to replace yourself. Choose your future. Choose life... But why would I want to do a thing like that? I chose not to choose life. I chose somethin' else. And the reasons? There are no reasons. Who needs reasons when you've got heroin?
- Mark Renton, Trainspotting.
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Post #230,003
10/18/05 7:10:46 PM
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ID - only consists of denigrating another theory
Matthew Greet
Choose Life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family. Choose a fucking big television, choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players and electrical tin openers. Choose good health, low cholesterol, and dental insurance. Choose fixed interest mortgage repayments. Choose a starter home. Choose your friends. Choose leisurewear and matching luggage. Choose DIY and wondering who the fuck you are on a Sunday morning. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing, spirit-crushing game shows, stuffing fucking junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pishing your last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, fucked up brats you spawned to replace yourself. Choose your future. Choose life... But why would I want to do a thing like that? I chose not to choose life. I chose somethin' else. And the reasons? There are no reasons. Who needs reasons when you've got heroin?
- Mark Renton, Trainspotting.
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Post #230,004
10/18/05 7:12:43 PM
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ID - no model and not trying to build a model - not science
Matthew Greet
Choose Life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family. Choose a fucking big television, choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players and electrical tin openers. Choose good health, low cholesterol, and dental insurance. Choose fixed interest mortgage repayments. Choose a starter home. Choose your friends. Choose leisurewear and matching luggage. Choose DIY and wondering who the fuck you are on a Sunday morning. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing, spirit-crushing game shows, stuffing fucking junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pishing your last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, fucked up brats you spawned to replace yourself. Choose your future. Choose life... But why would I want to do a thing like that? I chose not to choose life. I chose somethin' else. And the reasons? There are no reasons. Who needs reasons when you've got heroin?
- Mark Renton, Trainspotting.
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Post #230,008
10/18/05 7:44:56 PM
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I think of it as: ~how much language-murder we now tolerate.
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Post #230,142
10/19/05 9:05:35 PM
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ID is at least as sound as astrology, Ash.
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Post #230,146
10/19/05 10:14:11 PM
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Well, we sorta know what 'is' is - but 'sound'?
Since they're both metaphors for a Mystery as cannot be 'explained', and sound as adj. connotes quite a range of nuance.. most of which are a pretty long stretch -
I'd point out one practical difference:
There's some utility to examining the accuracy of personality quirks suggested by 'astrology'. The idea may even be tested in a scientific manner, once one decides what a "competent astrologer" is like, as with a "competent shrink". It ain't all about numbers, you know (as I thought we had been through n times.)
OTOH The only utility I can see of the selling of the ID scheme is - as another soothing wishfulness that, ~ when I Talk to God - SURELY She Will Listen! See? these 'Scientific' Theorists tell me so!
Right: YAN distinctly Chrisian-sect fav ontological proof of god cha cha
(If one is into needing that flimsy a reAssurance re one's chosen God-figure, that is.)
If it quacks like Creationism and attracts the same group of politicians - is it Arp\ufffdge?
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