Da Ox

murcan style of racing is a controlled crash

Sure -- but who was talking about racing?!?

You must have been living in the land of the Interstate for too long, to have completely forgotten that over here on the twisted roads of the Crowded Continent, cornering can be a useful thing in just plain *driving*. (And that consequently, our cars tend to be built for it.)

and yes, give me any of your wee cars and I can put it up on two and roll it if I wish.

Sure, of course you "can" -- if that's what you're *trying* to do! Who ever said you couldn't? So can I, if I set my mind to it -- in one of our "wee" cars, or (and this is the point:) *even more easily*, in one of your wobble-barges!

But how *to* make a car roll wasn't the point. The point was, that when you're *not* trying to roll the car, it preferably should *not* roll.

And all I said was that as far as I know, our "wee cars" are *better* at that. Interestingly, you are nowhere actually claiming, explicitly, that your BattleGuzzlers are better at staying upright... So WTF is your, from the general tone of it "oppositional", post all about then? Did you really miss what we were talking about, or were you just trying to give the *impression* of having refuted my point while actually talking about something else?

Cant remember the movie now but in Italy a guy took a fiat while evading the police slapped it up on two wheels to get thru a jammed roadway.

Newsflash for Merkins: Movies aren't reality.

Furthermore, are you sure that isn't the James Bond flick you're thinking of? Roger Moore, I'm fairly sure, I think not in Italy but -- Las Vegas, of all places! Can't remember for sure if it was in an Aston Martin or, believe-it-or-not, a Ford Mustang... (Again, refer to the "Newsflash" above.) But no matter: They're both pretty much "tractor-era" technology, with their separate ladder frames and live rear axles -- that Fiat would probably be much better than either of them, for this specific purpose.

Havent rolled a Porche but have rolled a volvo.

So? Wanna bet there's more people in the world who have rolled a Porsche but never a Volvo, than the converse?

Idea of cornering is 60mph+ and making a hard turn into an intersection.

No, that's not the idea of cornering -- that's more like the idea of jerky driving (or if you want, driving like a jerk).

thanx for the spell check :)

My Dreams arn't as empty as my concience seems to be

You're welcome! (And to continue the nit-picking, "conscience" has an 's' in it. And only the 'o' from "not" is elided in "aren't"; the 'e' from "are" stays.)