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New waste of time
little thug knows me, he prolly figures I am too far away (I am) and will forgive before he gets back here (I wont) I have knocked him down 3 times in his life and choked him out once, he just walks careful around me. His older brother and him have faught knockdown, dragout style no holds barred for 2 hours at a time, soon as he gets his breath he attacks again. Lets just say he is hard headed and move on.
thanx,
bill
All tribal myths are true, for a given value of "true" Terry Pratchett
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New Re: waste of time
It is a waste of time. The only thing it will accomplish is making you feel better momentarily and pissing him off even more.
New Is there a "Scared Straight"-type thing around?
It seems as if you need to try something different. Either he thinks he can be top-dog indefinitely, or he needs to be convinced that another approach will be better long-term.

That is, either he needs more discipline or he needs more incentives. Your present approach doesn't seem to be working. Something like [link|http://www.wild-side.com/scaredstraight.html|Scared Straight] might illustrate the downside of not complying with societal norms. Or something that demonstrates the benefits of being a social adolescent could show the benefits of changing his ways. I can't find anything immediately, but I'm sure there are things out there.

Adolescence is a difficult time under the best of circumstances. His feeling of invincibility is working against you. I hope he snaps out of it before he (and someone else) pays a heavy price. :-(

Best of luck.

Cheers,
Scott.
New Problem with stuff like that
Box has already said that football coaches are drooling over this kid. Most of the Scared Straight-type programs are based on convincing the kid that there are badder people in the world, and that he really doesn't want to be among them. What do you do when the kid believes -- and with some justification -- that he is going to be the bad-ass that people don't want to be around?

Right now, what he wants is "things". He has found a way to get them. He is happy with the state of his life. The only permanent fix is for him to see that there are intangible things in life that will make him happier. And that he can't take those things from other people.
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New True. Apropos your avatar.
Maybe the little monster should see "An Officer and a Gentleman". The script is [link|http://www.un-official.com/AnOfficerandaGentleman.pdf|here], but the line I remember - "I've got no place else to go!" isn't in it.

Yeah, I know it probably wouldn't help...

Cheers,
Scott.
New Simply does not work
Kids know they can't be hurt.

New he has been encarcerated and out thru that
the pissed off deputy just said he kept laughing at them.
thanx,
bill
All tribal myths are true, for a given value of "true" Terry Pratchett
[link|http://boxleys.blogspot.com/|http://boxleys.blogspot.com/]

Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 49 years. meep
questions, help? [link|mailto:pappas@catholic.org|email pappas at catholic.org]
New He who laughs last
is oft seen dragging a corpse behind.

(This would be.. the '05 Version, natch)

This is going to be a Hard. Case.

Titanium-cased zapping dog-collar with attached mobile Tee Vee w/ satellite-responding:
OK, Zap the sucker at +6.6, for That one..
Technology for a Troubled World\ufffd ...
New unfortunately what is needed is the female torture
have him totally adore someone who treats him like dog shit explaining that how he acts is why she will not deign him worthy. Trouble is he is an attraction for the "lets date a loser because he is cute" class.
thanx,
bill
All tribal myths are true, for a given value of "true" Terry Pratchett
[link|http://boxleys.blogspot.com/|http://boxleys.blogspot.com/]

Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 49 years. meep
questions, help? [link|mailto:pappas@catholic.org|email pappas at catholic.org]
New Oh, CTFO: Take away his toys & lock him in his room. HHWT?
Come The Fuck On

How Hard Was That
New I don't think this one has a simple solution. :-(
I mean, if he's been incarcerated and has been in pugilstic action with Box and he still hasn't changed, well...

I think that he's too young to have an unrequited love turn him around (but what do I know). We know that the usual pressure to behave around relatives didn't work.

He seems very cynical. It's hard to imagine religion having much effect on him either.

What does that leave? [link|http://www.flickr.com/photos/39887008@N00/|Medication]?

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[link|http://www.boardingschoolreview.com/military-boarding-schools.php|Military school]?

[link|http://www.focusas.com/JuvenileJustice.html|Group Home] or something else involving the juvenile justice system?

Dunno. I'm sure Box will keep working on him though.

He's a tough case. :-(

Cheers,
Scott.
New What-he whupped the BOx?!? I thought he was, like, 10 or so?
New 13, IIRC. See #213159 and #213158. :-(
New As I thought - according to the first of those, BOx...
...has "knocked him down three times".

That's no use -- ya can't just knock 'em down, ya gotta make sure they STAY down! Honestly, WTF is the use of "knocking him down"? He's gotta know he can still get a lot WORSE than just being "knocked down".

As for the second post, BOx needs to stop being such a wimp about his hands. Or get a good pair of thick leather working gloves.



Frivolities aside, it's good to see that contrary to the impression I got from your post, BOx can still handle the kid -- if only so he can drag him into his room and shut him in there. (For a good LONG while, with breaks only to go to the bathroom under Daddy's direct supervision.)


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Your lies are of Microsoftian Scale and boring to boot. Your 'depression' may be the closest you ever come to recognizing truth: you have no 'inferiority complex', you are inferior - and something inside you recognizes this. - [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=71575|Ashton Brown]
New MLRC's in for an interesting adolescence, I think. ;-)
New For how long - an hour, a night? Not a week or two, right?
New For how long - an hour, a night? Not a week or two, right?
     fuckfuckfuckfuck that little rat bastard is dead - (boxley) - (31)
         Have him fly into philly. -NT - (broomberg) - (2)
             no fucking way, let the little sonofabitch walk - (boxley) - (1)
                 I'm glad to see... - (ben_tilly)
         I'm sorry you're having to deal with this - (Nightowl)
         What crawled up his ass? - (bionerd) - (3)
             Did I forget to mention? (new thread) - (Ashton)
             If I get real despondant I'll email you offline thanx, -NT - (boxley) - (1)
                 Dont expect you to be despondant - (bionerd)
         Muchos simp\ufffdticos - (Ashton) - (22)
             the one with the cd is just a little unstable - (boxley) - (21)
                 I suppose thumping the living shit out of him ... - (Silverlock) - (1)
                     waste of time and hurts my hand -NT - (boxley)
                 ifn' i wuz u - (tuberculosis) - (18)
                     ICLRPD (new thread) - (ben_tilly)
                     waste of time - (boxley) - (16)
                         Re: waste of time - (bionerd)
                         Is there a "Scared Straight"-type thing around? - (Another Scott) - (14)
                             Problem with stuff like that - (drewk) - (1)
                                 True. Apropos your avatar. - (Another Scott)
                             Simply does not work - (broomberg)
                             he has been encarcerated and out thru that - (boxley) - (10)
                                 He who laughs last - (Ashton) - (7)
                                     unfortunately what is needed is the female torture - (boxley) - (6)
                                         Oh, CTFO: Take away his toys & lock him in his room. HHWT? -NT - (CRConrad) - (5)
                                             I don't think this one has a simple solution. :-( - (Another Scott) - (4)
                                                 What-he whupped the BOx?!? I thought he was, like, 10 or so? -NT - (CRConrad) - (3)
                                                     13, IIRC. See #213159 and #213158. :-( -NT - (Another Scott) - (2)
                                                         As I thought - according to the first of those, BOx... - (CRConrad) - (1)
                                                             MLRC's in for an interesting adolescence, I think. ;-) -NT - (Another Scott)
                                 For how long - an hour, a night? Not a week or two, right? -NT - (CRConrad)
                                 For how long - an hour, a night? Not a week or two, right? -NT - (CRConrad)

I don't mean by that that it gets worse, well I do, but I don't mean it that way. Unless you thought I meant the opposite of what I meant, in which case vice versa (or verce visa if you prefer).
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