Post #213,159
6/30/05 7:17:31 AM
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waste of time
little thug knows me, he prolly figures I am too far away (I am) and will forgive before he gets back here (I wont) I have knocked him down 3 times in his life and choked him out once, he just walks careful around me. His older brother and him have faught knockdown, dragout style no holds barred for 2 hours at a time, soon as he gets his breath he attacks again. Lets just say he is hard headed and move on. thanx, bill
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Post #213,165
6/30/05 8:47:38 AM
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Re: waste of time
It is a waste of time. The only thing it will accomplish is making you feel better momentarily and pissing him off even more.
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Post #213,179
6/30/05 11:24:25 AM
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Is there a "Scared Straight"-type thing around?
It seems as if you need to try something different. Either he thinks he can be top-dog indefinitely, or he needs to be convinced that another approach will be better long-term.
That is, either he needs more discipline or he needs more incentives. Your present approach doesn't seem to be working. Something like [link|http://www.wild-side.com/scaredstraight.html|Scared Straight] might illustrate the downside of not complying with societal norms. Or something that demonstrates the benefits of being a social adolescent could show the benefits of changing his ways. I can't find anything immediately, but I'm sure there are things out there.
Adolescence is a difficult time under the best of circumstances. His feeling of invincibility is working against you. I hope he snaps out of it before he (and someone else) pays a heavy price. :-(
Best of luck.
Cheers, Scott.
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Post #213,184
6/30/05 12:49:06 PM
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Problem with stuff like that
Box has already said that football coaches are drooling over this kid. Most of the Scared Straight-type programs are based on convincing the kid that there are badder people in the world, and that he really doesn't want to be among them. What do you do when the kid believes -- and with some justification -- that he is going to be the bad-ass that people don't want to be around?
Right now, what he wants is "things". He has found a way to get them. He is happy with the state of his life. The only permanent fix is for him to see that there are intangible things in life that will make him happier. And that he can't take those things from other people.
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Post #213,220
6/30/05 10:28:35 PM
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True. Apropos your avatar.
Maybe the little monster should see "An Officer and a Gentleman". The script is [link|http://www.un-official.com/AnOfficerandaGentleman.pdf|here], but the line I remember - "I've got no place else to go!" isn't in it.
Yeah, I know it probably wouldn't help...
Cheers, Scott.
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Post #213,224
6/30/05 10:44:08 PM
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Simply does not work
Kids know they can't be hurt.
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Post #213,460
7/4/05 2:25:37 PM
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he has been encarcerated and out thru that
the pissed off deputy just said he kept laughing at them. thanx, bill
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Post #213,478
7/4/05 7:27:28 PM
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He who laughs last
is oft seen dragging a corpse behind.
(This would be.. the '05 Version, natch)
This is going to be a Hard. Case.
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Post #213,480
7/4/05 7:43:04 PM
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unfortunately what is needed is the female torture
have him totally adore someone who treats him like dog shit explaining that how he acts is why she will not deign him worthy. Trouble is he is an attraction for the "lets date a loser because he is cute" class. thanx, bill
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Post #213,524
7/5/05 6:15:50 AM
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Oh, CTFO: Take away his toys & lock him in his room. HHWT?
Come The Fuck On
How Hard Was That
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Post #213,540
7/5/05 8:56:49 AM
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I don't think this one has a simple solution. :-(
I mean, if he's been incarcerated and has been in pugilstic action with Box and he still hasn't changed, well...
I think that he's too young to have an unrequited love turn him around (but what do I know). We know that the usual pressure to behave around relatives didn't work.
He seems very cynical. It's hard to imagine religion having much effect on him either.
What does that leave? [link|http://www.flickr.com/photos/39887008@N00/|Medication]?
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[link|http://www.boardingschoolreview.com/military-boarding-schools.php|Military school]?
[link|http://www.focusas.com/JuvenileJustice.html|Group Home] or something else involving the juvenile justice system?
Dunno. I'm sure Box will keep working on him though.
He's a tough case. :-(
Cheers, Scott.
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Post #213,544
7/5/05 9:06:35 AM
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What-he whupped the BOx?!? I thought he was, like, 10 or so?
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Post #213,546
7/5/05 9:16:29 AM
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13, IIRC. See #213159 and #213158. :-(
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Post #213,555
7/5/05 10:06:27 AM
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As I thought - according to the first of those, BOx...
...has "knocked him down three times".
That's no use -- ya can't just knock 'em down, ya gotta make sure they STAY down! Honestly, WTF is the use of "knocking him down"? He's gotta know he can still get a lot WORSE than just being "knocked down".
As for the second post, BOx needs to stop being such a wimp about his hands. Or get a good pair of thick leather working gloves.
Frivolities aside, it's good to see that contrary to the impression I got from your post, BOx can still handle the kid -- if only so he can drag him into his room and shut him in there. (For a good LONG while, with breaks only to go to the bathroom under Daddy's direct supervision.)
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Post #213,574
7/5/05 11:13:09 AM
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MLRC's in for an interesting adolescence, I think. ;-)
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Post #213,542
7/5/05 9:05:08 AM
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For how long - an hour, a night? Not a week or two, right?
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Post #213,543
7/5/05 9:05:21 AM
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For how long - an hour, a night? Not a week or two, right?
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