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Post #211,664 by pwhysall 6/19/05 12:08:33 PM Reply	He's a fool. Elsewhere in that interview, he admits that he hasn't used Linux. BSD is nice and all, but the only place it's going to survive is in OS X. In 2005, the freely distributable BSD operating systems offer no significant technical or economic advantages over Linux; their relative obscurity means that there are business reasons to favour Linux (or, indeed, proprietary UNIX) over BSD. This is a very, very bitter pill for the BSD people to swallow. Peter* [link\|http://www.ubuntulinux.org\|Ubuntu Linux] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes!
Post #211,665 by Another Scott 6/19/05 12:21:15 PM Reply	Slightly disagreement on the economic aspect. Since *BSD isn't encumbered by the GPL, people can (in principle) make proprietary software out of it and make $GINORMOUS profits. Thus following the model: 1) Take BSD OS or software. 2) Modify it, making unique, closed-source solution. 3) ??? 4) $GINORMOUS Profit! One can't do #2 and distribute the result (the GPL forbids it). However, since there isn't (AFAIK) any BSD software that doesn't have a GPL work-alike, there's the issue of competing with free software. So it's not a very successful business model (the exception being OS X which, as you note, is unique to Apple's hardware. But, of course, the BSD-ness is only in the Darwin kernel.). Cheers, Scott.
Post #211,666 by pwhysall 6/19/05 12:26:35 PM Reply	Fair cop :-) I know and you know that I know that you know that that's not the context that I was talking about :-) But you are 100% correct for the case where what you want is not necessarily an off-the-shelf operating system but rather a codebase to assimilate into a company's proprietary product. Peter [link\|http://www.ubuntulinux.org\|Ubuntu Linux] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes!
Post #211,667 by boxley 6/19/05 12:44:50 PM Reply	a lot of the spamguard/antivirus edge solutions are bsd base All tribal myths are true, for a given value of "true" Terry Pratchett [link\|http://boxleys.blogspot.com/\|http://boxleys.blogspot.com/] Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 49 years. meep questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #211,668 by pwhysall 6/19/05 12:51:40 PM Reply	SpamAssassin & ClamAV'll run on owt :-) Peter [link\|http://www.ubuntulinux.org\|Ubuntu Linux] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes!
Post #211,748 by tuberculosis 6/20/05 12:25:52 PM 8/21/07 12:46:01 PM Reply	OS X kernel the kernel on os x is not the bsd kernel. It is the mach kernel. The rest of it is an amalgam of the best of Open/Free/Net BSDs. "Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" --Mark Twain "The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein "This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush Edited by tuberculosis Aug. 21, 2007, 12:46:01 PM EDT Expand All History
Post #211,751 by Another Scott 6/20/05 12:31:43 PM Reply	D'oh. That's right. Thanks.
Post #211,759 by pwhysall 6/20/05 1:28:07 PM Reply	Point. self.slap(); Peter [link\|http://www.ubuntulinux.org\|Ubuntu Linux] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes!

OpenBSD guy blasts Linux quality - (bluke) - (11) - June 19, 2005, 05:34:58 AM EDT

DeRaadt... well. - (folkert) - June 19, 2005, 09:49:54 AM EDT

He's a fool. - (pwhysall) - (7) - June 19, 2005, 12:08:33 PM EDT

Slightly disagreement on the economic aspect. - (Another Scott) - (6) - June 19, 2005, 12:21:15 PM EDT

Fair cop :-) - (pwhysall) - (2) - June 19, 2005, 12:26:35 PM EDT

a lot of the spamguard/antivirus edge solutions are bsd base -NT - (boxley) - (1) - June 19, 2005, 12:44:50 PM EDT

SpamAssassin & ClamAV'll run on owt :-) -NT - (pwhysall) - June 19, 2005, 12:51:40 PM EDT

OS X kernel - (tuberculosis) - (2) - Aug. 21, 2007, 12:46:01 PM EDT

D'oh. That's right. Thanks. -NT - (Another Scott) - June 20, 2005, 12:31:43 PM EDT

Point. - (pwhysall) - June 20, 2005, 01:28:07 PM EDT

Re: OpenBSD guy blasts Linux quality - (systems) - (1) - June 29, 2005, 05:06:56 AM EDT

Well... - (folkert) - June 29, 2005, 12:51:20 PM EDT

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This is starting to sound like and invasion of "Them!". EE-EE-EE-EE-EE-EE-krrrrrk-ick-ick-ick-ka-ka-ka. Sheesh!
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