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New Cherry, please. On toast and cheddar cheese. Yum!
New It's not just me, then.
I'm also partial to cheese on toast with Wilkinson's Seville Orange Marmalade.


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New Few things are better than toasted fresh bread with butter.
As to what's a better build tool, I don't know. I would be very careful about switching away from what the developers know, though. How is switching going to make the team more efficient? Is the benefit going to be worth the disruption?

Re: Ant and XML. I've never quite understood all the hype about XML for applications like this either. It seems to me that having the editor do syntax highlighting of keywords, etc., takes care of the readability that XML provides without all of the extra baggage.

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Expand Edited by tuberculosis Aug. 21, 2007, 06:25:47 AM EDT
New Actually, I prefer orange on cheese, too.
I only said "cherry"(*) because I knew what they make out of oranges is called "marmalade", not "jam". (Not that I'm sure about the appropriate terminology for cherry preserves either... :-)

Plum confiture, believe it or not, is also very very good in that combo.




(*): Never actually tried that with cheese, AFAICR. Hmm...


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New jam/conserve/preserve/confiture etc
All equivalent, afaik.


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New Food YES, build tool NO
I've spent a couple afternoons trying to penetrate the docs on jam because its what XCode uses under the hood. I ultimately concluded that either Apple is using it very stupidly (always more than likely) or it failed the "easy to understand while staying flexible" test.

Do you really want to rewrite a build system that works now? Personally I'd rather have a root canal.

Ant is OK in the java world although it does no dependency checking on its own. This is left up to the task writer. Consequently deeply dependent builds can be kind of slow because each task will get a chance to look and see if it wants to do anything. So above a certain size of project it becomes ponderous to make a small change. Make is better at pruning this way I think and I don't find it hard to use at all.

OTOH, java confounds make because make figures out its dependencies at the beginning, then sets out to build stuff, but javac does its own dependency checking and you end up with double compiles using make. Harmless but slower.

Tough call - but I'm fairly sure you'll be miserable whichever way you go.



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Expand Edited by tuberculosis Aug. 21, 2007, 06:25:49 AM EDT
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     Ant or gnumake? - (bluke) - (20)
         Interesting comments by the creator of Ant - (bluke)
         What about jam? -NT - (pwhysall) - (9)
             Cherry, please. On toast and cheddar cheese. Yum! -NT - (CRConrad) - (5)
                 It's not just me, then. - (pwhysall) - (4)
                     Few things are better than toasted fresh bread with butter. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                         s/provides/prevents -NT - (tuberculosis)
                     Actually, I prefer orange on cheese, too. - (CRConrad) - (1)
                         jam/conserve/preserve/confiture etc - (pwhysall)
             Food YES, build tool NO - (tuberculosis) - (2)
                 ICLRPD (new thread) - (Steve Lowe)
                 ICLRPD (new thread) - (boxley)
         If it's all Java, use Ant - (admin) - (2)
             Agreed - (Yendor)
             Re: If it's all Java, use Ant - (dws)
         Re: Ant or gnumake? - (JimWeirich) - (5)
             Gee, why is THAT not a surprise... - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                 Re: Gee, why is THAT not a surprise... - (JimWeirich)
             OT - izzat a Breedlove you're hiding behind? - (Steve Lowe) - (2)
                 Re: OT - izzat a Breedlove you're hiding behind? - (JimWeirich) - (1)
                     Re: OT - izzat a Breedlove you're hiding behind? - (Steve Lowe)

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