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New There is...
... but you're still full of crap. :-)

To turn down Moneydance because "It's Java". Quit making excuses.

Launch time is better than the equivalent C/C++ app, and the interface is better. But that's outside your precept, so you don't bother addressing it.

Color me disappointed.
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New Dupe
Friggin plastic monolith stink pot cabin cruiser has pulled into the dock next to me and I think is beginning to block my signal. :-(



"Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect"   --Mark Twain

"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them."   --Albert Einstein

"This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses."   --George W. Bush
Expand Edited by tuberculosis June 6, 2005, 11:31:15 PM EDT
Expand Edited by tuberculosis Aug. 21, 2007, 06:10:56 AM EDT
New I last looked at it 2-3 years ago`
some dweeb at JavaOne handed me a disk - I took it home - it sucked. Half the labels were clipped wrong or bleeding onto the next widget.

I imagine its better now but the initial look was so bad I haven't bothered to look again.

....

OK so I downloaded it and poked around. Its improved a lot but is still obviously a Java app (there's not enough space around the text labels - layout looks crammed). I'll give you that it launched fairly quickly on the second launch. I'm not sure why the second one was improved - first launch was abysmal - taking roughly ten times as long as Quicken to fire up.

Quicken is fine and I don't have any inclination to "port" my data. Call me when they have one click import and it all just works. I dumped 2005's data as a QIF file and imported it and a lot of stuff was missing (like bank info). Also wasn't clear that I could do online bill pay or transfers - didn't see menu items for it.

So I'll give you that this app - while not as nice as native, is one of the least sucky Java apps I've seen.



"Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect"   --Mark Twain

"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them."   --Albert Einstein

"This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses."   --George W. Bush
Expand Edited by tuberculosis Aug. 21, 2007, 06:10:58 AM EDT
New Doesn't look like that on my machine.
Looks just like a native app. And it's pretty fast even on the first start.

What are you running it on? Minis aren't exactly known for their speed.
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New Powerbook G6
Powerbook G4 + 1G(Hz) + 1G(Bytes) = G6 (according to my HS algebra teacher).

Machine is plenty fast and never seems to break a sweat. I suspect initial VM warmup is extra expensive but is then cached somehow.



"Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect"   --Mark Twain

"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them."   --Albert Einstein

"This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses."   --George W. Bush
Expand Edited by tuberculosis Aug. 21, 2007, 06:12:50 AM EDT
     need a check register for linux or OSX - (boxley) - (52)
         gnucash -NT - (bepatient)
         I've heard good things about MoneyDance - (SpiceWare) - (50)
             I would feel uncomfortable putting my financial info on the - (boxley) - (3)
                 I don't think it stores your data on the internet -NT - (SpiceWare) - (2)
                     if the application promises not to bombard you with banner - (boxley) - (1)
                         banner? - (SpiceWare)
             Java app - therefore worthless - (tuberculosis) - (45)
                 You're wrong. - (CRConrad) - (42)
                     No, we are the right ones - (tuberculosis) - (18)
                         I believe that you just said... - (ben_tilly) - (16)
                             I also mentioned speed - (tuberculosis) - (15)
                                 Moore solves that one - (ben_tilly) - (12)
                                     IOW - (drewk) - (4)
                                         Ding, Ding, Ding! -NT - (folkert)
                                         The traditional figure is 90% :-) -NT - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                                             That number is low -NT - (tuberculosis)
                                         Absolutely -NT - (broomberg)
                                     That's just not *elegant* (in the Jargon file sense.) - (CRConrad)
                                     I think there is something architecturally wrong with Swing - (tuberculosis) - (5)
                                         There is... - (admin) - (4)
                                             Dupe - (tuberculosis)
                                             I last looked at it 2-3 years ago` - (tuberculosis) - (2)
                                                 Doesn't look like that on my machine. - (admin) - (1)
                                                     Powerbook G6 - (tuberculosis)
                                 Jesus you're full of crap sometimes, Todd. - (admin)
                                 Yeah...but what do you REALLY think? ;-) - (jb4)
                         ICLRDP (new thread) - (lincoln)
                     If it does the job correctly within the time allowed... - (pwhysall) - (22)
                         Key phrase: within the time allowed - (tuberculosis) - (2)
                             "Assorifice" - (pwhysall) - (1)
                                 You didn't answer my question (new thread) - (tuberculosis)
                         So if it doesn't, are we THEN allowed to say it's crap? - (CRConrad) - (18)
                             While we're hand-waving... - (pwhysall) - (17)
                                 That's a false dilemma - (ben_tilly) - (16)
                                     Not in most corporations. -NT - (admin) - (15)
                                         Can you back that assertion up? - (ben_tilly) - (14)
                                             If you're doing Windows programming - (admin) - (13)
                                                 Double check your assertion - (ben_tilly) - (9)
                                                     Yep, my bad. - (admin)
                                                     having spent time around some large telco's - (boxley) - (7)
                                                         Speaking of pearl... - (ChrisR) - (3)
                                                             He doesn't sound like a happy warrior. -NT - (Another Scott)
                                                             s/pearl/Perl. As for the rest... - (ben_tilly)
                                                             That shoulda been a new thread -NT - (tuberculosis)
                                                         You're trying to get my goat, aren't you? Perl, not pearl! -NT - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                                                             one is a jewel and the other a shellfish hemorrhoid? -NT - (boxley) - (1)
                                                                 One is a jewel, and the other a kind of knitting? -NT - (jb4)
                                                 Fools we is I guess - (tuberculosis) - (2)
                                                     Ugh. -NT - (admin) - (1)
                                                         Makes sense if you think about it - (tuberculosis)
                 AFAIK, Intuit is evil. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                     There is no question about that. - (a6l6e6x)

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